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C50 Average Joe Quote
10/5/2017 4:19 PM

Last year I bought the bike I liked most. I own an RMZ and love the thing. If I was in the market for an 18, I'd try like heck to ride them all again, but would likely limit my choice to either a Suzuki, Kawasaki or Honda because the dealer I bought the RMZ from is fantastic and they only carry those three. If I relied only on shoot outs, I certainly would not have bought an RMZ. I appreciate that shootouts give you a lot of insight, but most of them also say you really can't go wrong with any of the new bikes. I have never been brand loyal, but this RMZ has really impressed me and I think another brand would have to really impress me to make a change at this point.

I haven't liked a bike like this one since my 93 CR 250.

C50_husqvarna_250_tc_2017_2_1492377431 kiwifan Quote
10/5/2017 4:29 PM
wreckitrandy wrote:

Isn't Dirt Rider the ...more

so because they did that every shootout winner after that is wrong? Or just because a Honda won, it means its wrong?

Current rides: 2018 CRF450R and 2017 TC250
Occasional ride for VMX: 1985 CR500
Road bike: None

C50 wreckitrandy Quote
10/5/2017 6:14 PM
wreckitrandy wrote:

Isn't Dirt Rider the ...more

kiwifan wrote:

so because they did that ...more

Well, since you put it 'THAT' way!!! Oh wait,,,,, didn't they do the same thing when Yamaha first came out with the backwards cylinder head?

C50_image_1448925443 JM485 Quote
10/5/2017 7:15 PM
wreckitrandy wrote:

Isn't Dirt Rider the ...more

kiwifan wrote:

so because they did that ...more

wreckitrandy wrote:

Well, since you put it ...more

You're being very misleading in how you're presenting that and I think you know it. They often pick bikes of the year for other reasons than top performance (that's what shootouts are for), they are often the most unique, newest company, biggest innovation, etc. It's always given them a chance to recognize a company for something other than straight performance.

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C50_op_ktm_9_1509822885 MBR Quote
10/5/2017 8:45 PM
brimx153 wrote:

i am thinking between a ...more

I feel Yamaha has a lot more engine braking than rest of the bikes.

C50_019 brimx153 Quote
10/6/2017 12:56 AM
MBR wrote:

I feel Yamaha has a lot ...more

cool thanks a mill , one more question . say you put the yamaha in 2nd gear ,on flat ground and release the clutch and let it move on idle , is it the same as he honda which moves very slowly along or like the Suzuki which feels like it is going 3 times faster . and means it pushes me in to ruts to fast and cant just release the clutch and brakes ,and coast through rut s like i use to on m 07 crf450 .

ps , i am picking between a 16 honda and a 16 yamaha , i think the yamaha might suit me better as i am 110 kg fast enough B rider and the honda feels small to me , i ve only rode the 3 yamaha , but i liked i alot ,but that was 13 yrs ago , no one i know has one to get a spin on . i ve rode a 14 and 17 honda ,much rather the 17 ,

any input would be great

C50 wreckitrandy Quote
10/6/2017 5:49 AM
kiwifan wrote:

so because they did that ...more

wreckitrandy wrote:

Well, since you put it ...more

JM485 wrote:

You're being very ...more

Moi? Misleading? Trust me, after I rode a Cannondale, not a soul on this earth bought one because I called it anything other than what it was.

I've not ridden any of the new bikes. The Honda might well be the best one by far. If things change and I get in the market for a new bike, it might be the one. But if so, it certainly won't be because Dirt Rider recommended it.

C50_8ebf39490bfeff26bc0c91d5f35a594e_1414431135 2WheelsForTheMasses Quote
10/6/2017 7:00 AM
ML512 wrote:

As far as I'm aware, Honda ...more

gsxr6 wrote:

Bam. Question answered. ...more

colintrax wrote:

Hahaha what?? 90?? Come on ...more

Wouldn't that make it an off-road bike?

C50_8ebf39490bfeff26bc0c91d5f35a594e_1414431135 2WheelsForTheMasses Quote
10/6/2017 7:19 AM
305FC250 wrote:

What changed on the Honda ...more

Shootouts are an absolute joke to say the least!!! People that don't know how to read shootouts and buy a bike based on the winner are even dumber! I have always found it to be very funny that a tester being 2-3 seconds a lap faster on a bike would end up picking the slower machine that they would claim doesn't handle as good as the winner?

Since I've been reading shootouts, its always been clear that Suzuki and Kawasaki are always back of the pack mainly Suzuki. What's funny about this is when you read the lap times completed by the riders over many many many years by all sorts of riders the mighty Zook is always the fastest around the track but always seems to find its way in the back of the pack when it comes to place on the step??? Now I'm starting to see that the reviews don't even post lap times in its testing which is quite funny and of course easy to change. Realistically the reasons being is that dollars have a lot to do with overall picks.

When I test a bike, I look for turning attributes and how clutch and gear boxes feel over anything else. Cause I know everything else can be changed very easily and I almost always go for the best handling bike.

C50_s1200_13582324_1819874468242387_1453600914_o_1492461992 gpracer36 Quote
10/6/2017 8:43 AM

so funny to watch all the haters when Honda, twin pipes and all, dominate the shoot outs this year, haha

C50 SmokinJoe439 Quote
10/6/2017 9:55 AM

Nobody tends to remember what bike won the shootout a year later and most don't care. I don't think I've ever meet anyone say they bought a bike cause it won the shootout.

C50_images_1483501291 Moto_Geek Quote
10/6/2017 10:18 AM

Guess I'm buying a honda and putting orange plastic on it..

C50_screenshot_2016_01_02_06_36_55_1460516754 gsxr6 Quote
10/6/2017 5:43 PM

I'm surprised Ktm has not* moved the color of the bike to a more red, ala 85 cr hondas

when in doubt, pin it out

C50_engine.f_1455853935 BobPA Quote
10/6/2017 5:55 PM
gpracer36 wrote:

so funny to watch all the ...more

That's what happens when Honda has the biggest shootout budgets

Jason Anderson FTW

C50_husqvarna_250_tc_2017_2_1492377431 kiwifan Quote
10/6/2017 8:02 PM
gpracer36 wrote:

so funny to watch all the ...more

BobPA wrote:

That's what happens when ...more

man your posts are getting funnier and funnier, are you on the turps?

Current rides: 2018 CRF450R and 2017 TC250
Occasional ride for VMX: 1985 CR500
Road bike: None

C50_engine.f_1455853935 BobPA Quote
10/6/2017 9:22 PM
gpracer36 wrote:

so funny to watch all the ...more

BobPA wrote:

That's what happens when ...more

kiwifan wrote:

man your posts are getting ...more

I wish you could understand my extreme sarcasm, the damn internets creates such a language barrier.

Jason Anderson FTW

C50_husqvarna_250_tc_2017_2_1492377431 kiwifan Quote
10/6/2017 11:11 PM
BobPA wrote:

That's what happens when ...more

kiwifan wrote:

man your posts are getting ...more

BobPA wrote:

I wish you could ...more

lol yes I got it mate

Current rides: 2018 CRF450R and 2017 TC250
Occasional ride for VMX: 1985 CR500
Road bike: None

C50_img_0719_1508802187 Permeance_Flux Quote
10/7/2017 3:33 PM

At least it's more in depth than dirtbike mag shootout

C50_img_0719_1508802187 Permeance_Flux Quote
10/7/2017 5:01 PM

I think dirtrider gave a better analysis of each bike, and they picked the Honda as the winner

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