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C50_1509004681501_1509006134 Derpin' DJ Quote
8/26/2014 4:27 AM

Jesus christ, this is just pitiful. They need to pull their finger out next year



C50_81_yz_250_1429551778 Ardfarkl Quote
8/26/2014 4:31 AM

I know the riders a couple years back, inlcuding devalos, where really complaining about engine speed and reliability.

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C50_img_0059_1398210956 Hamish F Quote
8/26/2014 4:32 AM

Why is that? Is there little in the way of contingency, are the bikes not quick enough, parts hard to find etc making Suzukis a bad choice for a privateer?

Seems silly that one of the "big 5" has so little of a presence in the class.

C50_tek14_1467663667 tek14 Quote
8/26/2014 5:56 AM

I heard new bike 2016 250s also. GPs their factory bike was one of fastest before rider did get hurt.

C50_img_8735_1506991758 seth505 Quote
8/26/2014 7:39 AM

I don't think the "Fell behind" holds much weight, I'm no pro but I tried a few new 250fs and liked the Suzuki, definitely not a bad bike.

C50_m8green_1368889296 racinstation Quote
8/26/2014 7:49 AM

It is a support issue not a bike issue. You should ride the new 250s and most guys prefer the Suzuki. It is just hard to race one if you can't make any money doing it and that's why the pros do what they do!

C50_631149048_1213168541 urbanlift707 Quote
8/26/2014 8:38 AM

The bikes are good. Since 2012 it's even won a couple shootouts and placed well in others. I think a big part of it is the cost of parts. I broke a dampening rod in my 12 rmz450 the oem part was $700. I ordered an oem dampening rod from a 09 crf 250, same exact part, and it was $175.

C50_115999170_1229546211 Wandell Quote
8/26/2014 10:27 AM

That's weird. A few years ago I could order parts for a DRZ110 and RM65 and they would cost less than the identical KLX110 and KX65 parts.

C50_139826380_1291095094 CamP Quote
8/26/2014 2:09 PM

Suzuki went nuts with their parts pricing a few years ago.

Honda pricing has gone up, but it's still the lowest.

C50_img_1546_1415663822 Kyriazis298 Quote
8/26/2014 2:37 PM

The bike is very good, id say 2nd best. The problem is with support, suzuki simply doesent have enough money to fund a 250 team. Also for privateers, they get no support. Thats the problem.

C50_627669398_1220944862 goonrider Quote
8/26/2014 5:15 PM

no no no. There is a shortage of yellow PVC pellets worldwide and they have to use what they have on the 450 so they don't make as many 250's cause they don't have the same profit margin. True story… I read it on motodrive.

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C50 Sir Roostsalot Quote
8/26/2014 5:25 PM

I believe the majority of outstanding shares of Suzuki stock is owned by the original Suzuki family. Also it seems kind of strange that after the auto division bankruptcy GM product is coming out of there former assembly lines. Anyone look at a Chevy Spark or Sonic lately?

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C50_ryanvillopoto_1426999157 JB479 Quote
8/26/2014 10:16 PM

Their engine is underpowered out of the box compared to all the other brands…..
Thats not what you want as a privateer….

C50_110811guyb_redbud_1449985751 GuyB Quote
8/26/2014 10:22 PM

I clipped a less-than-stellar post speculating about Suzuki's financial health. (If you're going to make claims on stuff like this, please have your ducks in a row.)

Anyway, after I did it, I noticed that RMT had posted a solid rebuttal to it that was about to go out with the tide (he'd quoted the original post), so I'm pasting that part back in. You'll find it below.


Please please please show me where or how you know American Suzuki, which by the way is not the name of the company, is financially unstable. Do you do the taxes for them? Did they come to you for a loan? Is it because they restructured a few years ago and that was called bankruptcy? When Suzuki brought over the cars and set up a new corporation, they made the mistake of including motorcycles, outboard engines and autos under the same corporate umbrella. When they decided to exit the car business here in the US, the only way they could do that and make a clean break would be to restructure the company by filling bankruptcy and forming an all new company. It had nothing to do with finances. As far as why they don't just throw money at MX racing, well they did that and it never really paid off. They hired some of the best riders and team managers and won a lot of championships. They had one of the best amateur support programs for years with great contingency. They built and still build some of the best bikes, but for some reason people still buy Honda's.

To be honest, Suzuki is smart. They cut back shipments to the US when the economy tanked and diverted that production to other countries that were still selling. Brazil, India and other developing countries got those spots on the assembly line that used to be slated to the US. Why tie up production on bikes that you have to turn around and give up half your margin so the dealers can sell them? Look at the rebates that the OEM's give out this time of year on the 14's. Do the math.

Just to send you on the right path on your google search, Its Suzuki Motor of America, Inc. and they are a wholly owned subsidiary of Suzuki Motor Corp..

There are two different industries you guys seem to forget about. The MX industry, which is very very small, and then there is the Motorcycle industry. Success in the MX industry does not mean success in the motorcycle industry. A company like say KTM, which most see as this shining star and at the top of the heap, is not even on the radar of companies like Polaris or HD. They are a niche player, just like Ducati. Very small in the overall scheme of things. They do build a great product though, as does Ducati.

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