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Just an FYI...
Any future wheelie boys threads will go straight to the Dumbgeon, unless there's some really compelling reason to keep them around.
Yes, we can all agree that no one likes to hear about bikes being stolen. But some of the suggestions of violence, and/or thinly-veiled (or not) racism generally make these threads extremely unattractive.
Also, I clipped a few people who were suggesting violent solutions in the previous threads. If you were one of them, hit me up in a few weeks if you want back in...and can refrain from doing that again in the future.
Any future wheelie boys threads will go straight to the Dumbgeon, unless there's some really compelling reason to keep them around.
Yes, we can all agree that no one likes to hear about bikes being stolen. But some of the suggestions of violence, and/or thinly-veiled (or not) racism generally make these threads extremely unattractive.
Also, I clipped a few people who were suggesting violent solutions in the previous threads. If you were one of them, hit me up in a few weeks if you want back in...and can refrain from doing that again in the future.
The problem is that if it's not acceptable to discuss online, it'll never be acceptable to do in real life. Also, by tossing any new threads, information about thefts and a growing wheelie boyz presence is not passed on. The result is more unsuspecting victims and a lack of public pressure to mitigate the problem.
This is my opinion. It's different than yours. I hope that's not enough of a reason to be clipped.
The Shop
Also, I agree that Vital isn't the place to decide what level of force is acceptable. We aren't law enforcement. I just don't like the PCness that comes with making people feel like they are wrong for desiring consequences and/or deterrent for these people. Again, I don't know where the line is drawn.
What is the point of having the discussion here except to anger people and get a rise out of them?
You know the answers you are going to get when you post something like that here. It never changes...
As far as what the point is, I'd say spreading the word and having each other's back against what I would consider a growing problem/epidemic.
Is the solution to bike thefts to ban all bikes? No. It's to go after the dudes stealing bikes in an effort to teach them that actions have consequences and hopefully deter others. Same with a topic on a message board. Should we ban the topic or go after the few that ruin it for everyone?
There's always going to be the outliers on the bell curve in any scenario. I simply don't feel that we should operate at the opposite side of the bell curve in an effort to curb those outliers, because a large majority of us can and do operate in the middle.
The world at large is not being informed of the dangers of bike theft by these threads behind made.
Plus, there is a difference between seeking appropriate justice through the criminal justice system and encouraging violence.
Pit Row
It does not matter what color the person is.....the fact is , he was a thief , and since he got caught stealing the very item many of us love , and why we visit this forum....sort of justifies why some of us get so upset about it. The Wheelie boyz.....I hate them for everything they do , and everything they stand for. I hate them for the stain they have put on all us " motocross guys ".....while they are reeking havoc up and down city streets. If it was a bunch of white trash dudes doing this....I'd hate them as well! I don't give a shit what color their skin is!
We can keep the racist stuff off these boards ( which is a great idea btw! )......but throwing the wheelie boys under the bus and discussing how much they freakin' SUCK!.....gives guys a way to vent a little on all these stolen bikes and the people who steal them!
I'm not advocating the hate spewing. Clip those guys if they are only there to do that. But I don't feel that it's racist to say that most illegal dirt bike riders on the streets of America's cities are black. It's simply factual. And if the facts are incorrect, then ok. I'm happy to be corrected. That doesn't mean I'm spewing hate. It's my observation of the problem.
The criminal justice system is not capable of solving this problem in its current state. The public pressure to do so doesn't exist, and it's frickin difficult to even catch these guys. I honestly think this will continue to spread and will be coming to a city near you. It makes too much sense as a criminal because it's so hard to get caught. So until that changes, I'm all for discussions on how else to mitigate the problem legally. If that entails violence to protect what's mine, then so be it. I'm legally allowed to do so here in Colorado. I'm quite concerned that Denver will be one of the next cities infected by this virus and I'm preparing myself for it via locks, lights, dogs, and guns. That doesn't mean I support some of the violent comments made because some were over the top. But again, there is a line and it's different for everyone.
My entire point is that banning the topic is much less productive at solving the problem than banning the few that can't have a reasonable discussion. It appears to be laziness. If you don't wanna moderate a few bad eggs, then maybe working in the internet forum business isn't for you.
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