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Hey everyone,
Can any one tell me if a 1982 YZ125 frame is the same as a 1981? I would like to replace the frame on my '81 because it has some pretty good battle scars at the rear. See a lot of '82's for sale but not many '81's.
Appreciate any help.
Todd
Can any one tell me if a 1982 YZ125 frame is the same as a 1981? I would like to replace the frame on my '81 because it has some pretty good battle scars at the rear. See a lot of '82's for sale but not many '81's.
Appreciate any help.
Todd
Thanks newmann.
The Shop
Cant find the ad but will keep looking.
Thanks!!
Make sure the seal area on the lower(bottom) is not corroded in any way . In the steering tube area,bottom area.
Strip the frame , dry film moly coat both seal area's -upper, lower . Use 2 Honda seal stacked in the upper
Area(4.00 each), follow the assembly manual exactly, new o ring's etc
Lower seal use stock set-up, or a 2 lip press in frame seal, versus the stem seal,
I just remachined the steering stem for bronze bushing's to prevent rust issue
And new bearing's
I am going to prove the fact that I have very little experience with these bikes by asking stupid questions here. I think I follow you on the two seals in the upper area -adding a 2nd seal in the area that is already there but not used by Yamaha? Do you have the Honda part number for the 2nd seal. I have already replaced the factory one with a new Yamaha seal.
I have seen the obsolete lower seal on ebay for $129. Cant see paying that for a seal!! Any info on the 2 lip press in frame seal?
I can get the machining done. Any info on the process of installing the bronze bushings?
Thanks Rob!!!
Crazy ripoff!
Ok seal info. = ID OD Height. All in mm, or mm x .03937 = inch / decimal size
Yamaha = 28 37 8
Honda part # 91201-ksr-a01 = 28 37 7
SKF. = 28 37 10
Your local Honda deal should have the Honda master seal and bearing catalog, or you can download one
With all the seals and bearings available thru Honda dealers
You can stack a Honda part number 91201-ksr -a01, = is 1 mm less in height than the stock Yamaha seal on top of the
Yamaha seal, there is plenty of room for 2 seals( I just did this about 2months ago)
As far as the sleeving steering stem-easy job, your repair machinist ( not a production machinist, or cnc machinist)
Should know right off the top of his head the thickness of the sleeve, and how to install it, and the best material to use,
Or the best material he has on his shelf., and how much to remove from the stem, if it has corrosion issues.
If he does not know- move on to the next shop.
I had plans of machining new stems from 17-4 ph stainless, but the cost would be about $700.00 each including heat treatment!
They are actually a very complex part, double ID's, pressed in plug(and pinned) in the center, cross drill coolant holes,
And a plug pressed in and welded at the top, then center drilled , and final machined( threads cut) wow!
I made my stem sleeves out of ams 4640, and shrink fit the sleeves to the machined stem's( I made a spare stem assembly)
When I machine custom parts from billet, I always make extra's once the tooling is set-up, and running.
Once on the stem, install in a lathe, and finish to size , and concentric, I finished mine oversize to put more pressure
On the seal lip
Then I coated the stem with a dry film moly lube, and baked
DO NOT WELD UP THE CORROSION ON THE STEM, and machine back to size!
The bottom seal is a little different
You can insert a small spreader ring into the middle slot on the bottom seal( would need to be machined) precisely
ID,OD to fit right thus putting outward pressure on the seal lip= this is if you want to use your old seal
New lip seal for bottom
OD= 1.655 ID 1.2. 43mm 30 x 8 If I remember right my notes are in my shop
I am currently machining out the cast iron bearing liners in the rear hub, and fitting with a 4000 series high strength steel
To properly secure the rear wheel bearing's( weak spot on the hub)
Parts partially complete on the bench- for my personal YZ125H
Aluminum brake pedal's
Billet exhaust dampners
Billet exhaust rings
Billet brake stay
More Titanium bolts
Bronze bushing's for the floating brake assembly
Appreciate it!
currently.
Remove or replace the steel
handlebars
kickstand /and mount
both bearing hub spacer's (2lbs ) wow!
front, rear axle spacers ,nuts
all the steel washers, spacer's
silencer mount hardware
hose clamps
all the small 10mm head bolts, lock washers
Rear brake pedal, floating brake spacer's
Brake arm
kicker pivot pin( replace with A2 drilled thru tool steel
heat treat)
Foot peg bolts hardware
plus more.......
were pretty much a wash on the lbs, and hub mods to
strenghten the really only weak link on the bike
I will be swapping a few more items with Titanium
Pit Row
Lots of cheap steel removed .
Since you own a shop, you can fab most
parts
You can leave the stem in the triple and turn with no problem to machine sleeve area's
or press out, i have done it both ways
You can also fab up a complete lower stem
seal using o'rings similar to what a submersible pump uses by the impellar
area
or sleeve the frame to use a regular lip seal
link on
water pump impellar
lower seal
front nylon cable guides
feel free to contact me
Hey I went with the '80 air cooled CR125 after all, got it for 150, pretty complete.
This will be my first resto, we'll see how it goes.
I'll do a YZ later on in time, but in 250 when a deal comes my way locally.
Ideally an F or a G, want to stay in the air cooled class.
But thanks again for the encouragement.
There are lots of Boucher family's in Québec !
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