'18 CRF 450 Crashes

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Edited Date/Time 9/11/2017 10:11am
Seems to me a lot of the crashes these riders are having on the new CRF450 are similar

Roczens 2 crashes (I know the first one was part rider error) & Gajsers crash from Germany and this weekend are similar

Seems like the bikes bottom out too easy and make the rider go OTB, how much ground clearance do they have at full compression??
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OT 9/11/2017 5:19am
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CarlinoJoeVideo wrote:
Ken Roczen on a bone stock 17 CRF450(Before his big crash). We can put our tin foil hats away now.. RAW: Ken Roczen - 2017 Honda...
Ken Roczen on a bone stock 17 CRF450(Before his big crash). We can put our tin foil hats away now..

RAW: Ken Roczen - 2017 Honda CRF450R - Monster Mountain MX on Vital MX

yeah, looks great on that smooth track, nice one
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CHILL BROS, ITS JUST THE SETUP!!!!

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In the Netherlands it looks like Tim cased it completely. Frame hit the ground no suspension involved ???
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Could we please just stop with these stupid idiotic post?
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Yeah pretty much all have crashed bad with new frame. Honda people tell its not the bike. How many think Gajser missing 2016 frame..
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tek14 wrote:
Yeah pretty much all have crashed bad with new frame. Honda people tell its not the bike. How many think Gajser missing 2016 frame..
I bet he isLaughing
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Mx286 wrote:
Could we please just stop with these stupid idiotic post?
don't open the thread if you don't wanna read it brah
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Yawn

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Mx286 wrote:
Could we please just stop with these stupid idiotic post?
Yes please
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Turbojez wrote:
It's not the bike.
How can you be so sure? Many riders have complained, google it
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Less than 1 inch ground clearance when compressed
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Turbojez wrote:
It's not the bike.
OT wrote:
How can you be so sure? Many riders have complained, google it
How are you so sure?
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Turbojez wrote:
It's not the bike.
OT wrote:
How can you be so sure? Many riders have complained, google it
BobPA wrote:
How are you so sure?
google.com
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OT wrote:
How can you be so sure? Many riders have complained, google it
BobPA wrote:
How are you so sure?
OT wrote:
google.com
If it's on the internet, it must be true.
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This same shit was posted yesterday, spoiler: it's in the dumbgeon

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OT wrote:
Less than 1 inch ground clearance when compressed
In Gajser's case, he stuck the frame into the face of a sand roller before the suspension really had much to do with the situation.

In Kenny's case, he overshot a rhythm lane by just a bit, bottomed out the shock by going deep into the transition between those jumps...the shock packed and released the energy as he took off, plus his body position was forward to push through the jump as he tried to save time and catch the rider in front. Stuff happens...

Both are minor rider miss-calculations.

The newest CRF has only 2mm less ground clearance than the newest RM-Z450 and YZ450F.

Lets see this list of internet complaints...all I'm hearing is praise from the teams and riders on it. Including Andrew Short telling me he'd rather ride a stock 2017 CRF450R than the full works 2016 model he had at his house...
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OT wrote:
Less than 1 inch ground clearance when compressed
ML512 wrote:
In Gajser's case, he stuck the frame into the face of a sand roller before the suspension really had much to do with the situation. In...
In Gajser's case, he stuck the frame into the face of a sand roller before the suspension really had much to do with the situation.

In Kenny's case, he overshot a rhythm lane by just a bit, bottomed out the shock by going deep into the transition between those jumps...the shock packed and released the energy as he took off, plus his body position was forward to push through the jump as he tried to save time and catch the rider in front. Stuff happens...

Both are minor rider miss-calculations.

The newest CRF has only 2mm less ground clearance than the newest RM-Z450 and YZ450F.

Lets see this list of internet complaints...all I'm hearing is praise from the teams and riders on it. Including Andrew Short telling me he'd rather ride a stock 2017 CRF450R than the full works 2016 model he had at his house...
Speaking of Andrew Short maybe it's time for another Q&A session?

Don't think he's been on here for one of those?
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Speaking of Andrew Short maybe it's time for another Q&A session?

Don't think he's been on here for one of those?
I've asked him more than once, he's not too into it. I don't blame him, some bad eggs on here cause too many headaches.
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Speaking of Andrew Short maybe it's time for another Q&A session?

Don't think he's been on here for one of those?
ML512 wrote:
I've asked him more than once, he's not too into it. I don't blame him, some bad eggs on here cause too many headaches.
It was worth a shot. Never know unless you ask right?

I totally get why he's not really into it but it's not like he would have to answer every questions. He's had a long career and he's got a lot of fans so it would be nice to hear what he has to say on things.

I'd be curious to know what he really thought about the KTM 350 now that he can openly talk about it.
wideopen198 9/11/2017 9:44am
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tek14 wrote:
Yeah pretty much all have crashed bad with new frame. Honda people tell its not the bike. How many think Gajser missing 2016 frame..
You're talking bullshit. Gajser also crashed a lot with the 2016. He was just lucky to not get injured in those crashes last year.
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tek14 wrote:
Yeah pretty much all have crashed bad with new frame. Honda people tell its not the bike. How many think Gajser missing 2016 frame..
Trolling much? I have ridden the bike all kinds of different tracks and it has never done anything strange. Neither I or any of our team riders have crashed bad with the new CRF450R.

If it is mx or sx there will be crashes and usually the bike is not the blame. I'm pretty sure neither Villopoto or Stewart were riding CRF450R's?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_yiRA9lxKbo
https://youtu.be/oHI_-hszUbQ
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tek14 wrote:
Yeah pretty much all have crashed bad with new frame. Honda people tell its not the bike. How many think Gajser missing 2016 frame..
MBR wrote:
Trolling much? I have ridden the bike all kinds of different tracks and it has never done anything strange. Neither I or any of our team...
Trolling much? I have ridden the bike all kinds of different tracks and it has never done anything strange. Neither I or any of our team riders have crashed bad with the new CRF450R.

If it is mx or sx there will be crashes and usually the bike is not the blame. I'm pretty sure neither Villopoto or Stewart were riding CRF450R's?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_yiRA9lxKbo
https://youtu.be/oHI_-hszUbQ
Don't ruin the conspiracy theory for the Honda haters.
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Monk 9/11/2017 10:50am
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Or riders just make mistakes and shit happens?

I've become a firm believer that many riders are missing fundamental skills, whether mental, bike skills, fitness etc., which hinder their progress... A great example could be found in Osborne. Fitness might have been his weakness and under the right trainer and program he had an extremely successful season...

Guys like Dungey, CAROLLI, RV, RC, McGrath are multi-time champions for reasons of their own... Complete riders...
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JBecker 72 9/11/2017 11:00am
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Crashes happen, and so far pretty much all I see is praise for the new Honda compared to the 16.

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