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Momus wrote:
Ditto. There is a case in Australia where a prominent rider struck some earth moving equipment that was being used on the track during a race...
Ditto.

There is a case in Australia where a prominent rider struck some earth moving equipment that was being used on the track during a race. Hard to forsee that coming over a blind obstacle.
Rider972 wrote:
That is different that's negligence on the track's behalf and the only reason to sue. If they leave a piece of equipment in the middle of...
That is different that's negligence on the track's behalf and the only reason to sue. If they leave a piece of equipment in the middle of the track without closing it down or are digging out a new section that again is not closed off than I could understand but if you get hurt riding and the track owners didn't have a hand in it then you should never file a lawsuit. He will never win all he will do is make their insurance go up. Only weekend warriors posers sue over injuries a real racer would never do that because they know it's their own fault. I don't care how hurt he got filing a lawsuit is the lowest of the low and that's why there are so many tracks closing they can't afford the insurance. I worked at the first indoor facility Mototown USA and we had Riders go out in the ambulance multiple times every day plus two deaths and we were only sued by beginners or people that have no idea what this sport is all about and they never won a single cent!
Momus wrote:
The degree of negligence is exactly what these cases are about. My example was blatant. What if a tyre is dislodged onto the track by a...
The degree of negligence is exactly what these cases are about. My example was blatant. What if a tyre is dislodged onto the track by a rider going off and that causes an accident, or an unnanounced kicker?
Um,

Please give the definition of an "unannounced kicker".
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Our beloved interstate highway system is socialism , so I like some forms of it. Also looking forward to financing my riding with some social security money later on in this decade as well. Hope the kid and track pull out of this well. We accept the inherent risk every time we go out there.
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Rawly wrote:
Our beloved interstate highway system is socialism , so I like some forms of it. Also looking forward to financing my riding with some social security...
Our beloved interstate highway system is socialism , so I like some forms of it. Also looking forward to financing my riding with some social security money later on in this decade as well. Hope the kid and track pull out of this well. We accept the inherent risk every time we go out there.
Yes the perfect example of a poorly ran, cluster fuck, top heavy organization called government.
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A country where they ride flip flops or a stray camel doesn't count.
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Insurance companies ARE NOT in the business of insuring people, they are in the business of making money for their shareholders. They make money for the shareholders by NOT doing what they advertise to their clients - by not paying out claims. Their model is to sign up as many people to pay for insurance as possible, and pay out as little as possible. Period. Insurance companies have made it so difficult to get your claim payed out that you need a team of expensive and high powered lawyers to force the issue. The more claims they pay out, the smaller the profits, the less they make for the shareholders and the more they are punished on the stock market. It's pretty obvious these things are antithetical to each other and will never resolve into anything workable. When they do need to pay out, they generally go looking for other parties to sue in order to recoup their losses or at least share them. In the end, there will be almost no high-risk activities undertaken by normal people without elite level financial resources. That will be the result of a market determined insurance industry.
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3/11/2020 3:02pm Edited Date/Time 3/11/2020 3:10pm
Mr. Knobby wrote:
Insurance companies ARE NOT in the business of insuring people, they are in the business of making money for their shareholders. They make money for the...
Insurance companies ARE NOT in the business of insuring people, they are in the business of making money for their shareholders. They make money for the shareholders by NOT doing what they advertise to their clients - by not paying out claims. Their model is to sign up as many people to pay for insurance as possible, and pay out as little as possible. Period. Insurance companies have made it so difficult to get your claim payed out that you need a team of expensive and high powered lawyers to force the issue. The more claims they pay out, the smaller the profits, the less they make for the shareholders and the more they are punished on the stock market. It's pretty obvious these things are antithetical to each other and will never resolve into anything workable. When they do need to pay out, they generally go looking for other parties to sue in order to recoup their losses or at least share them. In the end, there will be almost no high-risk activities undertaken by normal people without elite level financial resources. That will be the result of a market determined insurance industry.
Yes, they are for profit companies Einstein. Who the hell didn't know that.
But you're also full of shit on much of what you say.
I've had Blue Cross/Blue Shield thru 2 jobs I've worked over the past 30 years. Not once have I had anything, not one thing, turned down. And I've had my share of surgeries, mri's, concussions, breaks and injuries. And not once did they sue!

Now are there a few bad insurance companies? Yes. But to paint with such a broad brush is ignorant of the facts. Which it's obvious you are.

Oh and btw, our group has been involved in running and promoting motocross races here for over 25 years. Luckily we've never been sued, but I know promoters who have. 90% of the time it's the parents or family doing it not the insurance companies. Although I'm no fan of insurance companies of any kind, they do serve a valuable purpose.
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Australia has a Medicare levy that let's us afford 'free' healthcare along with very tight administration of therapeutic goods that keeps most prices low. Parents suing would be almost unheard of.
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JustMX wrote:
But how is the choice to participate in sports with a risk of injury any different than living an unhealthy lifestyle? You don't think there would...
But how is the choice to participate in sports with a risk of injury any different than living an unhealthy lifestyle?

You don't think there would be expenses for obesity, alcohol consumption, smoking, vaping and many other unhealthy choices.
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I understand your point and I don’t have the answers on how to do it exactly but that’s why I said I’m somewhat for it and...
I understand your point and I don’t have the answers on how to do it exactly but that’s why I said I’m somewhat for it and I said basic healthcare.

My girlfriend got an IV infusion to help with walking pneumonia she can’t get rid of from an IV bar yesterday. It was $90 and she said that was a lot less expensive than going to her primary care doctor where they charge over $300 for the same thing. I told her the difference is because health insurance is involved at the doctor where as the IV bar actually has to market a price the average cash paying American can afford. I think removing health insurance from a lot of healthcare services would be the best thing to get costs back in line of affordability but, unfortunately, I don’t think that will ever happen.
wisey wrote:
I just got a quote to cut the cancer out of my face. The insurance quote that is set by the insurance company is $2000. I...
I just got a quote to cut the cancer out of my face. The insurance quote that is set by the insurance company is $2000. I have a $4000 deductible. The cash price, not going through insurance, is $1000.
In Canada, like many other nations with publicly funded healthcare, there's no insurance company markup (and no deductible). Our admin costs for our healthcare system come in right around 8% of total costs, which is excellent compared to the US system.

But we pay "sin" taxes on things like tobacco and alcohol. The additional taxes find their way to subsidizing our healthcare costs.

So you could say you're rewarded for leading a healthy lifestyle, in that you pay less tax. If you're going to drink a flat or a fifth a day and smoke two packs, your going to pay more in tax help cover the cost of your unhealthy choices down the road.
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3/12/2020 11:13am Edited Date/Time 3/12/2020 11:13am
GregDVT wrote:
When I was there 10/26/19 a kid got life flighted off of the top of big gulp. That jump has claimed quite a few people. Regardless...
When I was there 10/26/19 a kid got life flighted off of the top of big gulp. That jump has claimed quite a few people. Regardless it’s an inherent danger of the sport
Fairly certain I was there that day, and the young kid that crashed was jumping the gulp all day, even throwing little whips in the air.
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731chopper wrote:
I understand your point and I don’t have the answers on how to do it exactly but that’s why I said I’m somewhat for it and...
I understand your point and I don’t have the answers on how to do it exactly but that’s why I said I’m somewhat for it and I said basic healthcare.

My girlfriend got an IV infusion to help with walking pneumonia she can’t get rid of from an IV bar yesterday. It was $90 and she said that was a lot less expensive than going to her primary care doctor where they charge over $300 for the same thing. I told her the difference is because health insurance is involved at the doctor where as the IV bar actually has to market a price the average cash paying American can afford. I think removing health insurance from a lot of healthcare services would be the best thing to get costs back in line of affordability but, unfortunately, I don’t think that will ever happen.
wisey wrote:
I just got a quote to cut the cancer out of my face. The insurance quote that is set by the insurance company is $2000. I...
I just got a quote to cut the cancer out of my face. The insurance quote that is set by the insurance company is $2000. I have a $4000 deductible. The cash price, not going through insurance, is $1000.
Rooster wrote:
In Canada, like many other nations with publicly funded healthcare, there's no insurance company markup (and no deductible). Our admin costs for our healthcare system come...
In Canada, like many other nations with publicly funded healthcare, there's no insurance company markup (and no deductible). Our admin costs for our healthcare system come in right around 8% of total costs, which is excellent compared to the US system.

But we pay "sin" taxes on things like tobacco and alcohol. The additional taxes find their way to subsidizing our healthcare costs.

So you could say you're rewarded for leading a healthy lifestyle, in that you pay less tax. If you're going to drink a flat or a fifth a day and smoke two packs, your going to pay more in tax help cover the cost of your unhealthy choices down the road.
You pay for healthcare in more ways than one. Your sales tax is 15% in most places when you add up state and national sales tax. Plus your income tax is much higher than ours. Not to mention the sin taxes. And the government runs your healthcare.
All good if you just need a regular doctor visit. Good luck if you need a test like an mri and/or surgery. Guy I work with is born and raised in Canada. Blew out his knee playing softball. Waited 6 months for an mri and 5 months more for surgery. If I had that happen here I could have the mri and surgery in the same week.

That said, our system needs work for sure. But I do believe we have some of the best doctors in the world.
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wisey wrote:
I just got a quote to cut the cancer out of my face. The insurance quote that is set by the insurance company is $2000. I...
I just got a quote to cut the cancer out of my face. The insurance quote that is set by the insurance company is $2000. I have a $4000 deductible. The cash price, not going through insurance, is $1000.
Rooster wrote:
In Canada, like many other nations with publicly funded healthcare, there's no insurance company markup (and no deductible). Our admin costs for our healthcare system come...
In Canada, like many other nations with publicly funded healthcare, there's no insurance company markup (and no deductible). Our admin costs for our healthcare system come in right around 8% of total costs, which is excellent compared to the US system.

But we pay "sin" taxes on things like tobacco and alcohol. The additional taxes find their way to subsidizing our healthcare costs.

So you could say you're rewarded for leading a healthy lifestyle, in that you pay less tax. If you're going to drink a flat or a fifth a day and smoke two packs, your going to pay more in tax help cover the cost of your unhealthy choices down the road.
Indy mxer wrote:
You pay for healthcare in more ways than one. Your sales tax is 15% in most places when you add up state and national sales tax...
You pay for healthcare in more ways than one. Your sales tax is 15% in most places when you add up state and national sales tax. Plus your income tax is much higher than ours. Not to mention the sin taxes. And the government runs your healthcare.
All good if you just need a regular doctor visit. Good luck if you need a test like an mri and/or surgery. Guy I work with is born and raised in Canada. Blew out his knee playing softball. Waited 6 months for an mri and 5 months more for surgery. If I had that happen here I could have the mri and surgery in the same week.

That said, our system needs work for sure. But I do believe we have some of the best doctors in the world.
You have good doctors and a fucked system. This volleyball story is repeated with the same details and different sports repeatedly. Again public health care is not about takinh care of athletes at the speed of athletes, for that you can get additional private cover. It’s healthcare for the population. Tell me a story of a Canadian who broke a leg and was left with a million dollars of medical debt?

What about a person in Canada who has heart disease and another condition but has to ration their medication so only treats one condition.

These are realities in America, so if the trade off is your mate has to wait 6 months to get a specialty surgery then that’s a fantastic trade off. Because that was a luxury surgery that he may have paid for if his insurance covered it but for anyone else it wouldn’t have been possibly or it would have been hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt.

So I feel bad for your friend but if that’s as bad as it gets then that’s a fucking good trade off.
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Zacka 161 wrote:
You have good doctors and a fucked system. This volleyball story is repeated with the same details and different sports repeatedly. Again public health care is...
You have good doctors and a fucked system. This volleyball story is repeated with the same details and different sports repeatedly. Again public health care is not about takinh care of athletes at the speed of athletes, for that you can get additional private cover. It’s healthcare for the population. Tell me a story of a Canadian who broke a leg and was left with a million dollars of medical debt?

What about a person in Canada who has heart disease and another condition but has to ration their medication so only treats one condition.

These are realities in America, so if the trade off is your mate has to wait 6 months to get a specialty surgery then that’s a fantastic trade off. Because that was a luxury surgery that he may have paid for if his insurance covered it but for anyone else it wouldn’t have been possibly or it would have been hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt.

So I feel bad for your friend but if that’s as bad as it gets then that’s a fucking good trade off.
Can't you see that every single one of your comments has been deleted, yet here you are still commenting!

Get a clue dude!
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Zacka 161 wrote:
You have good doctors and a fucked system. This volleyball story is repeated with the same details and different sports repeatedly. Again public health care is...
You have good doctors and a fucked system. This volleyball story is repeated with the same details and different sports repeatedly. Again public health care is not about takinh care of athletes at the speed of athletes, for that you can get additional private cover. It’s healthcare for the population. Tell me a story of a Canadian who broke a leg and was left with a million dollars of medical debt?

What about a person in Canada who has heart disease and another condition but has to ration their medication so only treats one condition.

These are realities in America, so if the trade off is your mate has to wait 6 months to get a specialty surgery then that’s a fantastic trade off. Because that was a luxury surgery that he may have paid for if his insurance covered it but for anyone else it wouldn’t have been possibly or it would have been hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt.

So I feel bad for your friend but if that’s as bad as it gets then that’s a fucking good trade off.
disbanded wrote:
Can't you see that every single one of your comments has been deleted, yet here you are still commenting!

Get a clue dude!
haha, nah I didnt see that.

All good, I'm not being a bully or offensive. Certain things are just clear and peoples ignorant responses are hilarious.

Stay safe people in this strange time where it's apparently OK for the government for public health even though a private system will fix your knees quicker...
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Zacka 161 wrote:
You have good doctors and a fucked system. This volleyball story is repeated with the same details and different sports repeatedly. Again public health care is...
You have good doctors and a fucked system. This volleyball story is repeated with the same details and different sports repeatedly. Again public health care is not about takinh care of athletes at the speed of athletes, for that you can get additional private cover. It’s healthcare for the population. Tell me a story of a Canadian who broke a leg and was left with a million dollars of medical debt?

What about a person in Canada who has heart disease and another condition but has to ration their medication so only treats one condition.

These are realities in America, so if the trade off is your mate has to wait 6 months to get a specialty surgery then that’s a fantastic trade off. Because that was a luxury surgery that he may have paid for if his insurance covered it but for anyone else it wouldn’t have been possibly or it would have been hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt.

So I feel bad for your friend but if that’s as bad as it gets then that’s a fucking good trade off.
disbanded wrote:
Can't you see that every single one of your comments has been deleted, yet here you are still commenting!

Get a clue dude!
Zacka 161 wrote:
haha, nah I didnt see that. All good, I'm not being a bully or offensive. Certain things are just clear and peoples ignorant responses are hilarious...
haha, nah I didnt see that.

All good, I'm not being a bully or offensive. Certain things are just clear and peoples ignorant responses are hilarious.

Stay safe people in this strange time where it's apparently OK for the government for public health even though a private system will fix your knees quicker...
Maybe your not being a bully or offensive but everyone is painfully aware of you veiw on US healthcare,So be a nice guy give it a rest,or in other words STFU
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Rider972 wrote:
That is different that's negligence on the track's behalf and the only reason to sue. If they leave a piece of equipment in the middle of...
That is different that's negligence on the track's behalf and the only reason to sue. If they leave a piece of equipment in the middle of the track without closing it down or are digging out a new section that again is not closed off than I could understand but if you get hurt riding and the track owners didn't have a hand in it then you should never file a lawsuit. He will never win all he will do is make their insurance go up. Only weekend warriors posers sue over injuries a real racer would never do that because they know it's their own fault. I don't care how hurt he got filing a lawsuit is the lowest of the low and that's why there are so many tracks closing they can't afford the insurance. I worked at the first indoor facility Mototown USA and we had Riders go out in the ambulance multiple times every day plus two deaths and we were only sued by beginners or people that have no idea what this sport is all about and they never won a single cent!
Momus wrote:
The degree of negligence is exactly what these cases are about. My example was blatant. What if a tyre is dislodged onto the track by a...
The degree of negligence is exactly what these cases are about. My example was blatant. What if a tyre is dislodged onto the track by a rider going off and that causes an accident, or an unnanounced kicker?
Gworm wrote:
Those two examples don’t sound like gross negligence to me.
That's why juries or expert lawyers turned judges often make the call.🤔
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3/13/2020 5:05am Edited Date/Time 3/13/2020 5:10am
You really know nothing about our healthcare. I gave you example after example of how it's worked fine for me and others I know. And I don't know of anyone who's had to sue to get treatment. Btw, having an mri isn't considered a luxury here. When I tore my rotator cuff I had an mri and was in surgery within a week. Oh and btw, I owed about $3000 when it was all said and done. I'm good with what we have. Just needs some work.

Besides we have government run healthcare now, it's called the VA. How's that working out? It's not, it's low quality shit show.

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Indy mxer wrote:
You really know nothing about our healthcare. I gave you example after example of how it's worked fine for me and others I know. And I...
You really know nothing about our healthcare. I gave you example after example of how it's worked fine for me and others I know. And I don't know of anyone who's had to sue to get treatment. Btw, having an mri isn't considered a luxury here. When I tore my rotator cuff I had an mri and was in surgery within a week. Oh and btw, I owed about $3000 when it was all said and done. I'm good with what we have. Just needs some work.

Besides we have government run healthcare now, it's called the VA. How's that working out? It's not, it's low quality shit show.

I broke my back spent a week in ICU, 2 months in rehab and all my medical costs are covered long term.

Guess what I owed?

$0

And the people in the country that payed into the single payer Medicare that covered me and other Australians injured the same pay half as much as you at for healthcare...

I was 20 and Working part time, in America I would have potentially more than a million dollars of debt. At 20. And now a paraplegic...

Public health saved my life and livelihood. And I didn’t have to start a go fund me to pay for it...

Do you wanna know why the VA doesn’t work.... it’s the same reason Obamacare got so expensive.... when have a system that allows the private insurance companies to pick a do choose people they allow in based on risk, then those at higher risk including coming back from war are forced into what is available to them, meaning those become overloaded. A public system fixes this because the pool becomes 300 million people so the cost comes down as the high risk and low risk are all I the pool. The cost comes down for everyone because there’s not publically traded insurance companies as the middle man who is legally required to do everything possible for profit.

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Public health insurance is so great. now private health insurance and provider networks are offered in the uk. Due to the stupid long wait times offered by public health insurance
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Indy mxer wrote:
You really know nothing about our healthcare. I gave you example after example of how it's worked fine for me and others I know. And I...
You really know nothing about our healthcare. I gave you example after example of how it's worked fine for me and others I know. And I don't know of anyone who's had to sue to get treatment. Btw, having an mri isn't considered a luxury here. When I tore my rotator cuff I had an mri and was in surgery within a week. Oh and btw, I owed about $3000 when it was all said and done. I'm good with what we have. Just needs some work.

Besides we have government run healthcare now, it's called the VA. How's that working out? It's not, it's low quality shit show.

Zacka 161 wrote:
I broke my back spent a week in ICU, 2 months in rehab and all my medical costs are covered long term. Guess what I owed...
I broke my back spent a week in ICU, 2 months in rehab and all my medical costs are covered long term.

Guess what I owed?

$0

And the people in the country that payed into the single payer Medicare that covered me and other Australians injured the same pay half as much as you at for healthcare...

I was 20 and Working part time, in America I would have potentially more than a million dollars of debt. At 20. And now a paraplegic...

Public health saved my life and livelihood. And I didn’t have to start a go fund me to pay for it...

Do you wanna know why the VA doesn’t work.... it’s the same reason Obamacare got so expensive.... when have a system that allows the private insurance companies to pick a do choose people they allow in based on risk, then those at higher risk including coming back from war are forced into what is available to them, meaning those become overloaded. A public system fixes this because the pool becomes 300 million people so the cost comes down as the high risk and low risk are all I the pool. The cost comes down for everyone because there’s not publically traded insurance companies as the middle man who is legally required to do everything possible for profit.

Dude, stop digging. The hole your're in is deep enough. You keep getting more irrational because nobody will agree with you.
And your grammar sucks!
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Indy mxer wrote:
You really know nothing about our healthcare. I gave you example after example of how it's worked fine for me and others I know. And I...
You really know nothing about our healthcare. I gave you example after example of how it's worked fine for me and others I know. And I don't know of anyone who's had to sue to get treatment. Btw, having an mri isn't considered a luxury here. When I tore my rotator cuff I had an mri and was in surgery within a week. Oh and btw, I owed about $3000 when it was all said and done. I'm good with what we have. Just needs some work.

Besides we have government run healthcare now, it's called the VA. How's that working out? It's not, it's low quality shit show.

Zacka 161 wrote:
I broke my back spent a week in ICU, 2 months in rehab and all my medical costs are covered long term. Guess what I owed...
I broke my back spent a week in ICU, 2 months in rehab and all my medical costs are covered long term.

Guess what I owed?

$0

And the people in the country that payed into the single payer Medicare that covered me and other Australians injured the same pay half as much as you at for healthcare...

I was 20 and Working part time, in America I would have potentially more than a million dollars of debt. At 20. And now a paraplegic...

Public health saved my life and livelihood. And I didn’t have to start a go fund me to pay for it...

Do you wanna know why the VA doesn’t work.... it’s the same reason Obamacare got so expensive.... when have a system that allows the private insurance companies to pick a do choose people they allow in based on risk, then those at higher risk including coming back from war are forced into what is available to them, meaning those become overloaded. A public system fixes this because the pool becomes 300 million people so the cost comes down as the high risk and low risk are all I the pool. The cost comes down for everyone because there’s not publically traded insurance companies as the middle man who is legally required to do everything possible for profit.

Indy mxer wrote:
Dude, stop digging. The hole your're in is deep enough. You keep getting more irrational because nobody will agree with you.
And your grammar sucks!
‘You sound irrational’ ‘your grammar sucks’

Nothing I said was irrational. If you can explain why that would be great. I’m open minded and focused on facts.

But if you bring personal experience of a $3000 mri after paying I assume a minimum of $12000 a year in insurance then I’ll bring my experience of public health saving my life and flying me halfway across the country for urgent surgery without billing me anything. So what makes you prefer an expensive private system?

And yes there’s private health insurance in Australia as well for people that want to jump the cue but after paying the Medicare levy and the personal private health insurance it’s still less than the cost in America. Crazy right?

Please tell me what I have wrong about the American system and why it’s really good for America as a whole?
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It takes a special kind of POS to sign a waiver then sue.
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3/13/2020 8:45pm Edited Date/Time 3/13/2020 8:46pm
Rawly wrote:
Our beloved interstate highway system is socialism , so I like some forms of it. Also looking forward to financing my riding with some social security...
Our beloved interstate highway system is socialism , so I like some forms of it. Also looking forward to financing my riding with some social security money later on in this decade as well. Hope the kid and track pull out of this well. We accept the inherent risk every time we go out there.
Beloved interstate highway system? Are you freaking kidding me? I just had to spend $400 on struts for my car last year because our roads with potholes and cracks destroyed them. Not to mention 80% of the time I can’t even drive fast enough to do that damage because I’m sitting in traffic. Praising Social Security? Seriously? Imagine having all of that money they’ve taken away from you over the years to invest in other things on your own instead of having the gov steal it from you and redistribute to people who didn’t earn it. I’ve traveled to Europe and seen socialism in action. It may work in a country with the population of California but People I met in the UK STILL pay extra for private insurance.
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3/13/2020 10:40pm
Rawly wrote:
Our beloved interstate highway system is socialism , so I like some forms of it. Also looking forward to financing my riding with some social security...
Our beloved interstate highway system is socialism , so I like some forms of it. Also looking forward to financing my riding with some social security money later on in this decade as well. Hope the kid and track pull out of this well. We accept the inherent risk every time we go out there.
Beloved interstate highway system? Are you freaking kidding me? I just had to spend $400 on struts for my car last year because our roads with...
Beloved interstate highway system? Are you freaking kidding me? I just had to spend $400 on struts for my car last year because our roads with potholes and cracks destroyed them. Not to mention 80% of the time I can’t even drive fast enough to do that damage because I’m sitting in traffic. Praising Social Security? Seriously? Imagine having all of that money they’ve taken away from you over the years to invest in other things on your own instead of having the gov steal it from you and redistribute to people who didn’t earn it. I’ve traveled to Europe and seen socialism in action. It may work in a country with the population of California but People I met in the UK STILL pay extra for private insurance.
I'm in ca. Worst roads in the nation with the highest gas taxes and car registration.
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3/14/2020 4:04am
Everyone in United Kingdom gets public healthcare
It's abolutely brilliant and free
Lots of people top up with private healthcare which helps you get quicker treatment if it's non urgent
Any urgent help for trauma would still be through public system as private healthcare is not set up for emergencies
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3/14/2020 8:21am
Everyone in United Kingdom gets public healthcare It's abolutely brilliant and free Lots of people top up with private healthcare which helps you get quicker treatment...
Everyone in United Kingdom gets public healthcare
It's abolutely brilliant and free
Lots of people top up with private healthcare which helps you get quicker treatment if it's non urgent
Any urgent help for trauma would still be through public system as private healthcare is not set up for emergencies
Free?
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