Can different mx boots make the difference?

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I race in the German Cross Country Championships and did not do so well in the last three races. Fitness, bike, state of mind, etc are all good. The only difference is that I switched from Alpinestars Tech 10 (used them for the last 4 years) to the latest Gaerne SG-12. I did put the shift-lever one notch higher! Can it be the boots?? Or am I over the hill....
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KX500 10/5/2019 2:54pm
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Go back to the old boots & see!
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idworx 10/5/2019 3:07pm
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Yes I will! Has anybody else experienced this?
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cody41 10/5/2019 3:24pm
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Sg12s have a ridiculously stiff sole and bad feel in my opinion. I can’t stand riding in boots when I can’t feel the pegs.
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While Alpinestars Tech 7 are shit for protection and soft soled, I ride better in them due to having better feel on the pegs/brake/shifter than my Gaerne boots. Weird but true.
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Jaybird67k 10/5/2019 3:58pm
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I guess some people need or want to feel the pegs more kinda like you have gear counters vs non gear counters. Personally the SG 12's are amazing and I feel the pegs just fine and to me their very comfortable and have amazing protection.
I think it's like anything. You just have to do it long enough to get used to it so it feels right. Then again I'm not picky about any kind of foot wear.

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idworx wrote:
I race in the German Cross Country Championships and did not do so well in the last three races. Fitness, bike, state of mind, etc are...
I race in the German Cross Country Championships and did not do so well in the last three races. Fitness, bike, state of mind, etc are all good. The only difference is that I switched from Alpinestars Tech 10 (used them for the last 4 years) to the latest Gaerne SG-12. I did put the shift-lever one notch higher! Can it be the boots?? Or am I over the hill....
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idworx 10/6/2019 12:55am
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While Alpinestars Tech 7 are shit for protection and soft soled, I ride better in them due to having better feel on the pegs/brake/shifter than my...
While Alpinestars Tech 7 are shit for protection and soft soled, I ride better in them due to having better feel on the pegs/brake/shifter than my Gaerne boots. Weird but true.
Interesting. I got the Gaernes because when riding mx tracks with lots of jumps my feet got sore with the Alpinestars. So, yes, with the Gaernes no more sore feet but less feel. The Alpinstars also have poor protection on top of your feet, but maybe I will have to make sacrifices to get up to speed again. Will test next weekend in France at a three hour CC race.
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idworx 10/6/2019 4:12am
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JH84 wears Alpinestars: super fast but his feet are often damaged Wink
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JETT Boots out of Brazil now are a close copy of the A 7 with a not so tall toe box and a replaceable steel and rubber bottom insert that take hard landings great and light weight but has great support and is the most comfortable fitting boot I have ever worn.
Other thing for you to try is some IMS Core replacement foot-pegs that are 5mm lower and 5mm rearward it opens up some more room if you want a big toe box boot.
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I had SG-12s for 2 years and really had a hard time with the tall toe box and how much my foot moved around inside there, mainly when shifting up. And as others mentioned, feel was bad in general for everything (pegs, shifter, brake pedal). But they did offer a lot of protection and I never had any ankle issues. I'm using Tech 7s now and like them a lot, but they don't offer the same protection (though they are better in the ankle than the Instincts I've had).

If you have to move your focus to your feet, I can definitely see how that would affect your riding. The boots bothered me for sure, and I didn't want to get rid of them because of what I paid either.
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mirramaxx 10/7/2019 8:46am
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I have a pair of Tech 10's and Tech 7's Love em both. The tech 10's took a few rides to get broke in but after that they offer great feel and protection. Yesterday was my 1st ride in the 7's and they were awesome right out of the box, I did walk around in them to get a little broke in and that seemed to help. I ran Sg12's since 2015 and they were a good boot but also ran big on me and never had good feel to them. Tech 7's sounds like would fit the bill for ya !


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idworx 10/8/2019 1:15am
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mirramaxx wrote:
I have a pair of Tech 10's and Tech 7's Love em both. The tech 10's took a few rides to get broke in but after...
I have a pair of Tech 10's and Tech 7's Love em both. The tech 10's took a few rides to get broke in but after that they offer great feel and protection. Yesterday was my 1st ride in the 7's and they were awesome right out of the box, I did walk around in them to get a little broke in and that seemed to help. I ran Sg12's since 2015 and they were a good boot but also ran big on me and never had good feel to them. Tech 7's sounds like would fit the bill for ya !


Thank you! I will try my Tech10s again this Sunday in France for a three hour CC race and will next week get some Tech7 to test!
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idworx 10/8/2019 1:20am
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FortyHat wrote:
I had SG-12s for 2 years and really had a hard time with the tall toe box and how much my foot moved around inside there...

I had SG-12s for 2 years and really had a hard time with the tall toe box and how much my foot moved around inside there, mainly when shifting up. And as others mentioned, feel was bad in general for everything (pegs, shifter, brake pedal). But they did offer a lot of protection and I never had any ankle issues. I'm using Tech 7s now and like them a lot, but they don't offer the same protection (though they are better in the ankle than the Instincts I've had).

If you have to move your focus to your feet, I can definitely see how that would affect your riding. The boots bothered me for sure, and I didn't want to get rid of them because of what I paid either.
Confirms a lot! I go through about two sets of boots a year so I can experiment over the winter in the off season.
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kkawboy14 10/8/2019 10:18am
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1) you didn’t just charge 1 thing, you changed 2 things!

2) change back the obvious, move your shifter back to its original location! Then think about the boots!
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idworx 10/9/2019 1:20am
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1) you didn’t just charge 1 thing, you changed 2 things! 2) change back the obvious, move your shifter back to its original location! Then think...
1) you didn’t just charge 1 thing, you changed 2 things!

2) change back the obvious, move your shifter back to its original location! Then think about the boots!
Can't do that as you will not be able to shift then (with the SG-12).
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Lynch 10/9/2019 2:10am
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idworx wrote:
Can't do that as you will not be able to shift then (with the SG-12).
I went from Tech 10's to SG12s last winter as the Tech 10's broke and I didn't have another pair with me, I didn't move the shifter at all Sideways

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idworx 10/9/2019 6:55am
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Over the hill.... Tongue
Smile that took a while before somebody said that!
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Eddieg15 10/9/2019 6:22pm
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Love my sidi. Have a pair of cf 2&3s. Small toe plate. Great protection

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