David Bailey MXGP

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PastranaWho 7/24/2017 1:23pm
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Nothing but facts coming from bailey. I just think SX is the main focus for the US riders and you dont see that all out aproach like the GPs. The premiere outdoor championship right now is the GPs
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Xeno 7/24/2017 1:32pm
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The MXGP broadcasts would be much less boring if Bailey was doing the color commentary.


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Barrzy256 7/24/2017 1:37pm
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In my opinion, he's also picked one of the most boring GP's of this year, apart from Qatar. Loket normally produces great racing, I didn't feel like that happened yesterday

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RangerLee 7/24/2017 1:42pm
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Wait, less ruts at a MXGP? I thought one of the points made here is that MXGP tracks are usually more rough than AMA MX tracks?

Did things change?
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RangerLee wrote:
Wait, less ruts at a MXGP? I thought one of the points made here is that MXGP tracks are usually more rough than AMA MX tracks...
Wait, less ruts at a MXGP? I thought one of the points made here is that MXGP tracks are usually more rough than AMA MX tracks?

Did things change?
it depends on who everyone is mad at this week.
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RangerLee wrote:
Wait, less ruts at a MXGP? I thought one of the points made here is that MXGP tracks are usually more rough than AMA MX tracks...
Wait, less ruts at a MXGP? I thought one of the points made here is that MXGP tracks are usually more rough than AMA MX tracks?

Did things change?
They are usually more rough.. nothing to do with ruts
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ATKpilot99 7/24/2017 1:59pm
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Yay David Bailey likes us. He really really likes us , lol.
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RangerLee wrote:
Wait, less ruts at a MXGP? I thought one of the points made here is that MXGP tracks are usually more rough than AMA MX tracks...
Wait, less ruts at a MXGP? I thought one of the points made here is that MXGP tracks are usually more rough than AMA MX tracks?

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Dude. Ruts does not equal rough. Why is that so hard?
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RangerLee wrote:
Wait, less ruts at a MXGP? I thought one of the points made here is that MXGP tracks are usually more rough than AMA MX tracks...
Wait, less ruts at a MXGP? I thought one of the points made here is that MXGP tracks are usually more rough than AMA MX tracks?

Did things change?
Sodipop wrote:
Dude. Ruts does not equal rough. Why is that so hard?
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In my opinion, he's also picked one of the most boring GP's of this year, apart from Qatar. Loket normally produces great racing, I didn't feel...
In my opinion, he's also picked one of the most boring GP's of this year, apart from Qatar. Loket normally produces great racing, I didn't feel like that happened yesterday
saturday was great imo.
Didn't get to watch the sunday races yet
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philG 7/24/2017 2:39pm
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Loket had a downpour, on sunday morning , after a bit of overnight rain. The first races wernt so good, but seeing as they dont rip it deep there, the water doesnt go in, but runs off... its good prep.

Would have liked to go, but we are doing Lommel & Frauenfeld in a couple of weeks as they are back to back. Next year for sure,
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ATKpilot99 7/24/2017 2:49pm
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RangerLee wrote:
Wait, less ruts at a MXGP? I thought one of the points made here is that MXGP tracks are usually more rough than AMA MX tracks...
Wait, less ruts at a MXGP? I thought one of the points made here is that MXGP tracks are usually more rough than AMA MX tracks?

Did things change?
Sodipop wrote:
Dude. Ruts does not equal rough. Why is that so hard?
It doesn't equal rough but it does string out the field. More so than a rough track imo.
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ATKpilot99 7/24/2017 2:56pm
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It doesn't surprise me that mccread latched onto to Bailey's post . His (and MxGeoffs) obsession with comparing the two series' is amusing. It's like they need it for validation. The GPs don't need that validation.... never have . It's like they have this complex that's rooted back in the 80s.
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As much as I hate to say it...MXGP is quickly becoming the premier motocross series in the world. And it has nothing to do with the GP's having better riders than America...because they don't...I blame supercross...American race teams only care about supercross...and its hurting the nationals. Both in terms of exposure and rider attrition.

And I've never understood the "sponsors only care about supercross" thing (and I'm as much of an "outsider" to this industry as one can be)...seems to me the same media outlets cover both series? (besides the nationals on NBC sports, and supercross on fox)...most of that media coverage is industry specific (its not like supercross highlites are on sports center and covering in Sports Illustrated and the nationals aren't)...though there are "supercross only" riders...I don't know of any "supercross only" fans (all the fans follow both series equally...and almost all of those fans are enthusiasts and participants).

If its the same media outlets covering both series, essentially the same fans following both series....can someone explain where the extra "sponsor" value comes from in supercross?

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PRM31 7/24/2017 3:21pm
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I think Bailey was spot on. Each series evolves and I think MXGP is very competitive right now and the tracks are quite good for the most part.

The weather was certainly a factor at Millville, but they knew it was going to rain and still ripped it a foot deep, or more. WTF...
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langhammx 7/24/2017 3:29pm
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As much as I hate to say it...MXGP is quickly becoming the premier motocross series in the world. And it has nothing to do with the...
As much as I hate to say it...MXGP is quickly becoming the premier motocross series in the world. And it has nothing to do with the GP's having better riders than America...because they don't...I blame supercross...American race teams only care about supercross...and its hurting the nationals. Both in terms of exposure and rider attrition.

And I've never understood the "sponsors only care about supercross" thing (and I'm as much of an "outsider" to this industry as one can be)...seems to me the same media outlets cover both series? (besides the nationals on NBC sports, and supercross on fox)...most of that media coverage is industry specific (its not like supercross highlites are on sports center and covering in Sports Illustrated and the nationals aren't)...though there are "supercross only" riders...I don't know of any "supercross only" fans (all the fans follow both series equally...and almost all of those fans are enthusiasts and participants).

If its the same media outlets covering both series, essentially the same fans following both series....can someone explain where the extra "sponsor" value comes from in supercross?

60,000 seats at $50.00 each
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Titan1 7/24/2017 4:34pm
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As much as I hate to say it...MXGP is quickly becoming the premier motocross series in the world. And it has nothing to do with the...
As much as I hate to say it...MXGP is quickly becoming the premier motocross series in the world. And it has nothing to do with the GP's having better riders than America...because they don't...I blame supercross...American race teams only care about supercross...and its hurting the nationals. Both in terms of exposure and rider attrition.

And I've never understood the "sponsors only care about supercross" thing (and I'm as much of an "outsider" to this industry as one can be)...seems to me the same media outlets cover both series? (besides the nationals on NBC sports, and supercross on fox)...most of that media coverage is industry specific (its not like supercross highlites are on sports center and covering in Sports Illustrated and the nationals aren't)...though there are "supercross only" riders...I don't know of any "supercross only" fans (all the fans follow both series equally...and almost all of those fans are enthusiasts and participants).

If its the same media outlets covering both series, essentially the same fans following both series....can someone explain where the extra "sponsor" value comes from in supercross?

langhammx wrote:
60,000 seats at $50.00 each
Everyone says that race attendance doesn't mean much in terms of revenue...and that money doesn't go to the teams/riders sponsors anyway...it goes to the promoter, sanctioning body, facility. Besides its not like the fans in the stands can see the sposnor logos on the bikes anyway (which would be the only sponsor benefit from butts in the seats).

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jonesaustin 7/24/2017 4:39pm
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Bailey wants the sport to have a aura of prestige, something we've lost to some degree since Carmichael dominated and we started seeing phrases like get'rdone. This isn't NASCAR, it's fighter pilots dogfighting with advanced machinery. More like F1. This sport should be branded that way imo.
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PRM31 wrote:
I think Bailey was spot on. Each series evolves and I think MXGP is very competitive right now and the tracks are quite good for the...
I think Bailey was spot on. Each series evolves and I think MXGP is very competitive right now and the tracks are quite good for the most part.

The weather was certainly a factor at Millville, but they knew it was going to rain and still ripped it a foot deep, or more. WTF...
we are still in the rutocross era, and it makes the racing boring...
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Shaned9326 7/25/2017 6:29am
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I completely agree with the fact that our big sponsors have basically killed real motocross on our side of the pond as supercross dominates everything and with that being said the riders don't really have much time to dedicate to actuall old school racing anymore and when the monster energy cup Becomes mes more important than the damn des nations to our rides and our fans than it's no wonder we have a problem winning it the way we did back in the old school days when bailey, o Mara, ward, Rc , and our guys couldn't wait to race the euros and hated to lose at any track in the world!! Realize times have changed and understand the pressure put on our elite pilots, but still think it's a shitty deal for everyone as battles between all the best riders in the world on a actual mx track trumps a damn 20 minute jump fest imo any day of the week and I've been to many races including suoercross, nationals, and gps!!! No comparison as suoercross more of a show and motocross more of a true balls out race especially when your racing for your country!! Enough venting, peace out mx brothers!!
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RG1 7/25/2017 6:43am
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I saw this on Instagram and thought it was cool. Why do gatedrop think it's worthy of an article though?
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Don't take Davids words as a pure endorsement of MXGP and an indictment of the US series. We're in a pattern right now that's a bit troubling, and many of us are disappointed. It's an observation, and nobody is condemning anybody.
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crusty_xx 7/25/2017 7:24am
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RG1 wrote:
I saw this on Instagram and thought it was cool. Why do gatedrop think it's worthy of an article though?
They wouldn't think so if Bailey had praised the AMA circuit. I'm just guessing on that one though
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RG1 7/25/2017 7:27am
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RG1 wrote:
I saw this on Instagram and thought it was cool. Why do gatedrop think it's worthy of an article though?
crusty_xx wrote:
They wouldn't think so if Bailey had praised the AMA circuit. I'm just guessing on that one though
Haha. I think you may be right
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Camp332 7/25/2017 7:30am
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Tbteam wrote:
Don't take Davids words as a pure endorsement of MXGP and an indictment of the US series. We're in a pattern right now that's a bit...
Don't take Davids words as a pure endorsement of MXGP and an indictment of the US series. We're in a pattern right now that's a bit troubling, and many of us are disappointed. It's an observation, and nobody is condemning anybody.
Hi buddy!

Yeah DB is spot on about the current situation in moto. At least how my eyes see things.
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huck 7/25/2017 7:35am
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While I see his comments and somewhat agree...imagine how fast these guys would be going if the tracks weren't rutted and rough!? Then would everybody be in an uproar about the number of high speed injuries?
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motomike137 7/25/2017 7:37am
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Tbteam wrote:
Don't take Davids words as a pure endorsement of MXGP and an indictment of the US series. We're in a pattern right now that's a bit...
Don't take Davids words as a pure endorsement of MXGP and an indictment of the US series. We're in a pattern right now that's a bit troubling, and many of us are disappointed. It's an observation, and nobody is condemning anybody.
Well said. Even though I admit to not following (watching) MXGP as much as I should I respect and love both series. To me the point here is really simple and been beaten to death on this forum... endless slot car like conditions do not make for great racing. Rough ass, bumpy, choppy, mogully (is it a word?) conditions can and usually do lend to good racing.
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langhammx wrote:
60,000 seats at $50.00 each
We have a winner!!! SX is where the money is because more people attend the races and the TV ratings are much better. That is what sponsors want, the most exposure possible to sell product.
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langhammx wrote:
60,000 seats at $50.00 each
wfo4ever wrote:
We have a winner!!! SX is where the money is because more people attend the races and the TV ratings are much better. That is what...
We have a winner!!! SX is where the money is because more people attend the races and the TV ratings are much better. That is what sponsors want, the most exposure possible to sell product.
Do the series/team/rider sponsors (or even the teams and riders themselves) see any of the attendance money? I was under the impression that they didn't see any of that money...

How much better are the TV ratings for super Ross compared to the Nationals?

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