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To our UK friends: Saw a quick news article about a proposed regulation banning diesel and gas powered vehicles by year 2040. Is this a reality or some legislator thinking out loud?
The Shop
But take a look at Denmark. Currently 140% of their electricity needs are met by windpower (source) This works for them in part because they are essentially a peninsula and they set up the majority of their generators out at sea. Still, pretty impressive that an entire country can function on this level.
Being an island, I would think the UK also has a lot of wind generation capacity at sea. The UK is much bigger than Denmark of course and has a larger population. But keep in mind they have several nuclear power plants to supplement their needs (source). If the entire population converted to electric cars tomorrow, they would have a huge problem. But factor in 20+ years of innovation (both in power generation as well as efficiency of usage) and I don't think it is that much of a stretch. It would be a slow transition anyway. Many people would still be using internal combustion engines in 2040 even if this did go into effect.
My next door neighbor drives a Nissan Leaf, I live 3 miles from a car factory that exclusively manufactures electric cars (Tesla), every taxi cab in my neck of the woods is a Prius hybrid, one of my buddies drives a full size hybrid truck to tow his boat in, and my local gas station just installed a hydrogen pump so Toyota Mirai owners could fill up.
If 2017 me went back to 1994 me and said all of this would happen (and every pro MX rider would be riding fuel injected 4-strokes), my wig would definitely have been blown back.
And I'm not even bringing up the technology sector (cell phones, VCRs, plasma TVs).
23 years can see a lot of change.
Hopefully that's all been sorted by now.
If we go all electric at some point, I'll be buying the last 2 gallons of premium gas ever consumed on planet Earth.
... And I'll be mixing a small bit of 2 stroke oil into it. I'm going to go out and buy some Blendzall just to be ready.
It won't happen by then!
It's a bit like wood burners in the UK, the tree huggers think they're great, until everyone has them!
It's gonna get real weird in a few years my friends.
"On an unusually windy day, Denmark found itself producing 116% of its national electricity needs from wind turbines yesterday evening. By 3am on Friday, when electricity demand dropped, that figure had risen to 140%."
"A surge in windfarm installations means Denmark could be producing half of its electricity from renewable sources well before a target date of 2020, according to Kees van der Leun, the chief commercial officer of the Ecofys energy consultancy."
Currently, not even half of Denmark's electricity is generated from renewables...So you are way off the mark saying "But take a look at Denmark. Currently 140% of their electricity needs are met by windpower."
The american insistence to still drive around in v8 fuel drinking machines is also (I'd say) a sign of resistance to progression rather than lack of advancement in technology.
And don't get me wrong, I love a V8 truck!
A wood burner use to give you quite a few towards it , FUBAR
First, building lithium batteries isn't toxic. It's basically salt, graphite, aluminum and other common metals. As for the lifetime argument no one on the ICE side takes into account the energy/CO2 requirements to extract, ship to a refinery, formulate and haul gasoline to a station in their calculations.
The end game with electric vehicles that makes them far superior is, collect renewable (mainly solar) energy from your home, store energy at your home and use it to power your life. We might still be 10-20 years from this being the norm but once it happens the people of that time will wonder how we survived and dealt with ICE powered vehicles.
I'll also add an opinion. I have often wondered once you factor in the 1000's of unique parts inside an average combustion engine and transmission how it compares. Between extracting raw materials and shipping them, to making the specific part and finally shipping it to the assembly plant there's a lot of carbon footprint there.
Pit Row
If that's what they plan to do...
then we could use a few more,
like me and you,
Where the stars and stripes,
and the EAGLES, FLYYYY
Good luck with all that. Ridiculous.
All we have just done is sign ourself up for future fines for targets we have no chance of meeting.
Honda already has one
https://automobiles.honda.com/clarity
I'll still be burning gas for a long time. The electric bikes are not appealing to me at the moment.
That'll probably change for me around the time dragsters and muscle cars go all electric.
For the street, I'm all over having an electric bike. I've seen a couple in action and they're quite sexy!
the cost of everything you buy is gonna skyrocket. The cost of building that electric car will make vehicles unobtainable for most. Which is pretty much the plan anyway. Cheap energy is what powers freedom.
https://youtu.be/r1SCu9yiBlo
The thought of pulling my trailer with anythjng battery powered is ludicrous. I'll be dead in 25yrs good fucking riddance wouldn't want to live on a over regulated shit hole earth by then anyway.
Electric vehicles are a long long long long long way from being practical in rural America. (Of course, the greenie agenda is doing its best to kill rural America...and I think that will happen before electric vehicles become practical there.
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