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MPJC MPJC
10/4/2017 11:50 AM

http://www.dirtrider.com/2018-450-mx-shootout

Just posted today. What stood out to me is that the Husky finished last. I own KTMs and have never ridden a Husky. Are they really that different that they should finish so far apart in a shootout? I recall MXA stating that anyone who rates them vastly differently is nuts. Or is this just a testament to how close the bikes actually are, with all of them being very, very good?

Current rides: 2016 KTM 250SXF, 2017 KTM 350SXF

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yz133rider yz133rider
10/4/2017 11:59 AM

Seems like a joke to me. Best shifting, best feel, best lightweight feeling, best cornering, get the hell out of here everyone is so Honda loyal it's nuts.

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JWACK JWACK
10/4/2017 12:03 PM
yz133rider wrote:

Seems like a joke to me. ...more

Ride one. They are very good. And I'm not Honda loyal. Coming off a 16 ktm.
Edit; you had a 17 honda correct?

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BobPA BobPA
10/4/2017 12:10 PM

That shoutout pales in comparison to Vital..

Tomac and/or Anderson for 2020.....

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Joe512 Joe512
10/4/2017 12:31 PM

Keefer tested shootout podcast, only shootout you need.

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BobPA BobPA
10/4/2017 12:34 PM
Joe512 wrote:

Keefer tested shootout ...more

I just cannot get into listening to something for 2 hours when I can read more information in under a half hour.

Tomac and/or Anderson for 2020.....

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tobz tobz
10/4/2017 12:51 PM

I know I told myself after my 09 kxf450 and 14 Yamaha 450 that I would never ever buy a 450 again. But the Honda is certainly peaking my interest for next season.

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TheLsho TheLsho
10/4/2017 12:52 PM
Joe512 wrote:

Keefer tested shootout ...more

BobPA wrote:

I just cannot get into ...more

I'll save you even more time then. They are all good. Honda barely beats the KTM/Husky in almost everyone's shootout so far. Buy whatever bike your best local dealer sells and will help you with.

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mattyhamz2 mattyhamz2
10/4/2017 1:48 PM
Joe512 wrote:

Keefer tested shootout ...more

BobPA wrote:

I just cannot get into ...more

TheLsho wrote:

I'll save you even more ...more

And the Yamaha tied with the Husky for 3rd in the Keefer shootout. All of these bikes are so good and you can make yourself comfortable on any of them.

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Dan-The-Man Dan-The-Man
10/4/2017 4:45 PM
yz133rider wrote:

Seems like a joke to me. ...more

Come on. Honda has flat out been low on the list for years and now when it wins you say it's a joke and biased.

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IceMan446 IceMan446
10/4/2017 4:52 PM
Joe512 wrote:

Keefer tested shootout ...more

Bingo.

Best all around shootout hands down.

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Myke Myke
10/4/2017 5:44 PM
Joe512 wrote:

Keefer tested shootout ...more

BobPA wrote:

I just cannot get into ...more

In the first 10 minuteish he goes over the overall results and then breaks it down and interviews the testers.

So same 30 minutes plus you can do something else like your air filter while you are listening.

Pretty negative comment for not even listening to make the comment you made.

"Who cares about what other people think"

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kkawboy14 kkawboy14
10/4/2017 5:45 PM

Awesome.....kawasaki wins again! Dude Honda can't even finish 2 motos......

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Myke Myke
10/4/2017 5:46 PM
yz133rider wrote:

Seems like a joke to me. ...more

Dan-The-Man wrote:

Come on. Honda has flat ...more

No joke Honda is offering contingency cash to each tester for shootout placement....(8

"Who cares about what other people think"

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kkawboy14 kkawboy14
10/4/2017 5:53 PM
yz133rider wrote:

Seems like a joke to me. ...more

Dan-The-Man wrote:

Come on. Honda has flat ...more

Myke wrote:

No joke Honda is offering ...more

They like hondas because they are lazy and Honda has electric start!

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navalseabee navalseabee
10/4/2017 5:55 PM

where can one find a link to this podcast?

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TXDirt TXDirt
10/4/2017 6:04 PM

Disclose the ad revenue they get.

And where is Alta in this. Sorry. This shootout is incomplete without it.

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BobPA BobPA
10/4/2017 6:09 PM
Myke wrote:

In the first 10 minuteish ...more

I am so sorry that I do not like listening to podcasts, not just Keefers....

Tomac and/or Anderson for 2020.....

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motoarmageddon motoarmageddon
10/4/2017 6:35 PM

Wow the Husqvarna really sucks

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tobz tobz
10/4/2017 6:54 PM
TXDirt wrote:

Disclose the ad revenue ...more

450 shootout.

Alta is not

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MPJC MPJC
10/4/2017 6:54 PM
motoarmageddon wrote:

Wow the Husqvarna really ...more

Does it really? The KTM doesn't and it's pretty much the same.

Current rides: 2016 KTM 250SXF, 2017 KTM 350SXF

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gpracer36 gpracer36
10/4/2017 7:20 PM

"no way Honda can win, it has two pipes!" says the goons on this site

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coastlinecascot coastlinecascot
10/4/2017 7:35 PM

Dirtrider still in business?

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Squitlege Squitlege
10/4/2017 7:36 PM

Swapped bikes with my boy a while back. Crf450 vs 450sx... miraculously he still smoked me even tho I had a weight and power advantage while riding his kayteemm. How tho?! whistling

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tobz tobz
10/4/2017 7:52 PM
Squitlege wrote:

Swapped bikes with my boy ...more

A squid is still a squid, sorry to say.

Which one were YOU quicker/more comfortable on? Is the question.

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ML512 ML512
10/4/2017 9:05 PM
TXDirt wrote:

Disclose the ad revenue ...more

As far as I'm aware, Honda only spends with one core-Motocross media outlet in the past few years and that's been Racer X. They've never spent a dime with Vital since we started....

We've been included in RFPs (request for proposals) but have never gotten an ad deal from any of those.

As for the Alta, it's designed to be a 250F competitor, not a 450. Having ridden an Alta, it would get dead last in a 450 Shootout, simple.

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Squitlege Squitlege
10/4/2017 9:09 PM
Squitlege wrote:

Swapped bikes with my boy ...more

tobz wrote:

A squid is still a squid, ...more

Bro, I felt way more comfortable on the one that the internet said was better. 100% stamped, hard.

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kiwifan kiwifan
10/4/2017 9:16 PM
TXDirt wrote:

Disclose the ad revenue ...more

ML512 wrote:

As far as I'm aware, Honda ...more

Vitards dont believe facts ML....

Current rides: 2020 CRF450RWE and 2019 TC300
Occasional ride for VMX: 1985 CR500RF
Adventure/Road bike: CRF1000L

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BobPA BobPA
10/4/2017 9:24 PM
Myke wrote:

No joke Honda is offering ...more

You have got to be kidding me...

Tomac and/or Anderson for 2020.....

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MPJC MPJC
10/4/2017 9:33 PM
Dan-The-Man wrote:

Come on. Honda has flat ...more

Myke wrote:

No joke Honda is offering ...more

BobPA wrote:

You have got to be kidding ...more

I take it that he was kidding. Or it's funny how Honda started offering said contingency cash when they improved their bike.

Current rides: 2016 KTM 250SXF, 2017 KTM 350SXF

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