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Joko Joko
1/26/2020 3:47 PM
PhotoDoesn’t sound too good for production ....
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Underground Underground
1/26/2020 3:55 PM

Sux for his business but I guess he wont be building any MEC winners this year either

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Bruce372 Bruce372
1/26/2020 4:06 PM

That really sucks, I know the feeling when you invest a whole bunch of money on specially equipment and it doesnt work properly and you need it working to earn a living.

Hope the guy can turn things around

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GODZILLA GODZILLA
1/26/2020 4:11 PM

Dammit.
I wanted one so badly.
I've read that it's the best bike in the world and you're really stupid if you buy something else.

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powertrip456 powertrip456
1/26/2020 4:28 PM

Wow. That’s a hell of a post. I am curious what machine it is... as a programmer and long time machinist I imagine I could help, but I have a feeling that for $400k or more the machine isn’t the issue here. Also, isn’t ESR Racing kind of redundant like saying ATM machine?

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feelit2morrow feelit2morrow
1/26/2020 4:35 PM

I hope that guy with the yz325 comes in to give his input. And maybe posts a pic of that sweet ride..

2018 CRF250R

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inthebadboycorner inthebadboycorner
1/26/2020 4:41 PM

It s a shame that someone did not do their research properly before making such a big investment.
Sucks mostly for customers that probably put their deposit money down.

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Bruce372 Bruce372
1/26/2020 4:51 PM
inthebadboycorner wrote:

It s a shame that someone ...more

Sometimes things dont workout despite doing research... especially if you are working with cutting edge technology

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rob162 rob162
1/26/2020 5:25 PM
inthebadboycorner wrote:

It s a shame that someone ...more

I watched a company drop 1.8 million in equipment. 4 machines after 2 years of research. Only to find out that what it "could do" it couldn't. They spent next year trying everything they could to make it work and couldn't. It was supposed to do everything faster at closer tolerances less down time different angles ECT ect. They almost lost everything. It sadly happens.

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rob162 rob162
1/26/2020 5:27 PM

Sometimes it's best not to believe the hype.

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inthebadboycorner inthebadboycorner
1/26/2020 7:01 PM

It's an American company rehashing japanese motorcycle parts, I can't imagine "cutting edge" technology.

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Dtat720 Dtat720
1/26/2020 7:22 PM

Probably got conned by the Haas guys.... they are pretty good at overhyping their garbage machines

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PTshox PTshox
1/26/2020 9:02 PM

Looks like that first post isn't live anymore.
Need more details. If there were promises made by a mfg and the machine couldn't deliver, and the mfg tried to help...... might be time for the right attorney. And I hate to say that... but most give mfg a chance to resolve the issue. if a sales rep/mfg overstated what the machine could do simply return it. Also do some research... most likely not an isolated event with the mfg. Meaning they did it to someone else.

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seth505 seth505
1/26/2020 9:27 PM
inthebadboycorner wrote:

It s a shame that someone ...more

Bruce372 wrote:

Sometimes things dont ...more

It should be pretty straight forward if you know what you are buying with machining centers.

1) The buyer didn't know the machine capability/capacity
2) The machine is defective (not holding tolerance?)
3) The salesman said it can do everything you want and someone believed them.

Should have done a machine buy off if they didn't. Put it in the contract that it needs to do what you want it to do.

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Kyle978 Kyle978
1/26/2020 9:43 PM

I REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT GOES ON IN THE MIND OF GUY WITH GRAMMAR LIKE THAT

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Kyle978 Kyle978
1/26/2020 9:45 PM
feelit2morrow wrote:

I hope that guy with the ...more

That thing is fyre bro 🔥

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Momus Momus
1/27/2020 12:17 AM

It would be good to get some detail on the specific issues.
Machining a cylinder from a casting should be a single setup these days

If the glass is half full it's twice as big as it needs to be.

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motomike894 motomike894
1/27/2020 4:40 AM

After seeing his hideous yz of his, then seeing him get pissy and butthurt all over here about it when myself and others were just being smartasses making fun of it, my guess here is it’s probably not all the machines fault.

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Madmax31 Madmax31
1/27/2020 6:05 AM
motomike894 wrote:

After seeing his hideous ...more

Why do you get off being a dick? Low self-esteem?

2013 KTM 450SXF, 1983 YZ 250K, & 1983 CR 250

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motomike894 motomike894
1/27/2020 6:36 AM
motomike894 wrote:

After seeing his hideous ...more

Madmax31 wrote:

Why do you get off being a ...more

Wow someone is sensitive lol

If you saw the bike and the shit he was talking you would understand

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kijen kijen
1/27/2020 6:54 AM

Motocross, what a family sport, where people support each other....lots of bashing of riders and companys these days?

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Hudd_421 Hudd_421
1/27/2020 7:27 AM
motomike894 wrote:

After seeing his hideous ...more

Is that the owner of ESR, or is it just some evangelist? But yeah, that white-blue (and no other accent color) YZ is not an attractive bike

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GODZILLA GODZILLA
1/27/2020 8:22 AM

Think it's just a zelote owner...
Hopefully.
If it's the owner it's even worse.


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Hudd_421 Hudd_421
1/27/2020 8:29 AM
GODZILLA wrote:

Think it's just a zelote ...more

BRO a 325 twostroke is so much cheaper and and faster than a 450 bro!

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euffeh euffeh
1/27/2020 8:30 AM

The man works 7 days a week, close to a year, after investing 400k in a new machine.

I think the caps lock rant is more than justified.

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Moto520 Moto520
1/27/2020 8:58 AM

I buy and sell new/ used CNC machines. A lot of people buy these things and think they are magic. They don't take into account: workholding, perishable tooling, and a lot of other things that go along with these machines.

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ti473 ti473
1/27/2020 9:01 AM
Dtat720 wrote:

Probably got conned by the ...more

I don't think Haas makes a 400K machine. Even an EC-400 with pallet pool and all the bells and whistles is still around 350K prior to any discounting. I think the answer is on his website.

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Privateer454 Privateer454
1/27/2020 9:02 AM
seth505 wrote:

It should be pretty ...more

100% true. Having built industrial CNC equipment, you always do a runoff to verify capability. Dry runs, capability studies, gauge studies, etc. It would be interesting to know the rest of the story for sure.

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Momus Momus
1/27/2020 9:08 AM
Privateer454 wrote:

100% true. Having built ...more

This.

If the glass is half full it's twice as big as it needs to be.

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Dtat720 Dtat720
1/27/2020 9:34 AM
Dtat720 wrote:

Probably got conned by the ...more

ti473 wrote:

I don't think Haas makes a ...more

Makino a51nx should be able to do everything he is wanting to do. Highly suspect user/ operator error on this one. Seriously doubt its a machine issue knowing now the machine

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