Has anyone ever Raced all 4 motos in a weekend?

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Is it even allowed to contest in both classes? and if so has anyone every raced 450 moto 1 250 moto 1 450 moto 2 and 250 moto 2? thats like 2 1/2hrs of moto!!!!! would be an impressive feat just to pull it off has it ever been done?
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I tried doing 5 classes 13yrs ago at our sieries final race. It didn't go well.
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Bradj70 wrote:
Is it even allowed to contest in both classes? and if so has anyone every raced 450 moto 1 250 moto 1 450 moto 2 and...
Is it even allowed to contest in both classes? and if so has anyone every raced 450 moto 1 250 moto 1 450 moto 2 and 250 moto 2? thats like 2 1/2hrs of moto!!!!! would be an impressive feat just to pull it off has it ever been done?
The top guys are probably fit enough to pull it off but contracts probably restrict it. I don't think AMA has a rule but I'm probably wrong. It would blow the doors off Vital if someone tried though...Ryan Sipes on a 125 and 250 pre-mixer...hells yeah.
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How about anybody on the Canadian circuit in around early 90s while there were still 500’s. 6 motos in one day, 35-40 mins each. True story !
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Look at S Everts past results. Won double championships in a single year.

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mx317 wrote:
Look at S Everts past results. Won double championships in a single year.
Forgot about that....but honestly, Everts could probably have raced 10 motos and won them all.
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Saw Rollerball run 125, 250 and 500 in one day against mere mortals.

I’m old.
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Bradj70 wrote:
Is it even allowed to contest in both classes? and if so has anyone every raced 450 moto 1 250 moto 1 450 moto 2 and...
Is it even allowed to contest in both classes? and if so has anyone every raced 450 moto 1 250 moto 1 450 moto 2 and 250 moto 2? thats like 2 1/2hrs of moto!!!!! would be an impressive feat just to pull it off has it ever been done?
It’s not allowed in the AMA Nationals or MXGP series these days.
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I don't remember them ever allowing it in the USA nationals, but I remember Barry Carsten riding 125 and 250 SX. I know he made several night shows in both and he made both mains at Daytona, Atlanta, and Cleveland (maybe more).
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Everts raced 2 classes most of 03 but he just won 1 championship. But also this was when the GPs were doing a 1 moto format. He did ride all 3 classes at the last round.

You could never ride both classes outdoors but you could in SX for years. Several guys made both mains over the years. I think Denny Stephenson was the first in 88?

Back in the 90s I remember SX entry fee was 55 a class and only 70 to ride both so several privateers did it.
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Yes, in a complete slow bro fashion.
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wpark89 wrote:
Everts raced 2 classes most of 03 but he just won 1 championship. But also this was when the GPs were doing a 1 moto format...
Everts raced 2 classes most of 03 but he just won 1 championship. But also this was when the GPs were doing a 1 moto format. He did ride all 3 classes at the last round.

You could never ride both classes outdoors but you could in SX for years. Several guys made both mains over the years. I think Denny Stephenson was the first in 88?

Back in the 90s I remember SX entry fee was 55 a class and only 70 to ride both so several privateers did it.
Yep you are right about not winning two. I thought he did because he won so much that year. I remember the three race day.
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JT$ used to rock both classes, with his old man turning wrenches out of a ford van.. Damn I'm old!.. Would have been late 90's
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wpark89 wrote:
Everts raced 2 classes most of 03 but he just won 1 championship. But also this was when the GPs were doing a 1 moto format...
Everts raced 2 classes most of 03 but he just won 1 championship. But also this was when the GPs were doing a 1 moto format. He did ride all 3 classes at the last round.

You could never ride both classes outdoors but you could in SX for years. Several guys made both mains over the years. I think Denny Stephenson was the first in 88?

Back in the 90s I remember SX entry fee was 55 a class and only 70 to ride both so several privateers did it.
It used to be allowed in the outdoors as well
Edit: nvm, those points may have been collected at seperate rounds
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Mike Larocco did not ride 2 classes the same day at the Nationals in 1990. Back then the series was split and Suzuki and Yamaha guys would ride the 250 races and then ride the 2nd half of the 125 series when the Kawi/Honda guys would compete in the 500 championship.
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125 and 250 sx in the 90s guys did

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Drtbykr wrote:
Saw Rollerball run 125, 250 and 500 in one day against mere mortals.

I’m old.
And he'd usually win them all.
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In about 1978 ama passed a rule forbidding riders from racing multiple classes at pro nationals.

It is known to us old timers as "the hannah rule"

There was a very real concern that he would ride and win multiple classes, back when the races were 45 minutes +2, and at places like st pete, fla, in august....

It was a legitimate concern.
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Ron Turner used to do it every weekend at Saddleback except he'd do all three 125, 250, and 500 - Win all 3 half the time.
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ML512 wrote:
It’s not allowed in the AMA Nationals or MXGP series these days.
Sounds gay...
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1997 NESC Southwick Invitational the week before the Nat. Most locals rode both classes 125/250 expert. Every moto was a 30+2, on one hell of a rough track! I can only recall my own day and it was good! I remember not being able to drive home that night and gave the wheel to a friend. The next week at the Nat, i went 16/13 on the 250.
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Just chug a Monster after every event like the pros do. You'll be fine.
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JustMX wrote:
In about 1978 ama passed a rule forbidding riders from racing multiple classes at pro nationals. It is known to us old timers as "the hannah...
In about 1978 ama passed a rule forbidding riders from racing multiple classes at pro nationals.

It is known to us old timers as "the hannah rule"

There was a very real concern that he would ride and win multiple classes, back when the races were 45 minutes +2, and at places like st pete, fla, in august....

It was a legitimate concern.
This. Back in the day, there would be several riders that would ride 2 or 3 different classes. Also, at each race there was only 1 "National" class and the other would be a support class only except for at Hangtown which always held both a 125 and 250 National every year.

In 1977, Bob Hannah won a 125 National, a 250 National and a 500 National as well as a 250 Super X, (which was the premier class back then) all in the same year. There's been several riders to win a race in each class, but none in the same year like Bob did.
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Idk about outdoors but I know daniel Blair did it in Supercross.
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7eleven wrote:
1997 NESC Southwick Invitational the week before the Nat. Most locals rode both classes 125/250 expert. Every moto was a 30+2, on one hell of a...
1997 NESC Southwick Invitational the week before the Nat. Most locals rode both classes 125/250 expert. Every moto was a 30+2, on one hell of a rough track! I can only recall my own day and it was good! I remember not being able to drive home that night and gave the wheel to a friend. The next week at the Nat, i went 16/13 on the 250.
You must be Austin Squires, I remember you hauling ass at that 97 so.wick nat. My brother bob was KJs mechanic from 96 to 2003, i wrenched for his cousin Dana.
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mx317 wrote:
I don't remember them ever allowing it in the USA nationals, but I remember Barry Carsten riding 125 and 250 SX. I know he made several...
I don't remember them ever allowing it in the USA nationals, but I remember Barry Carsten riding 125 and 250 SX. I know he made several night shows in both and he made both mains at Daytona, Atlanta, and Cleveland (maybe more).
This.

Barry Carsten # 32 was the King of making both in SX and was able to make good $ by doing it.

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