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colvin227 colvin227
7/11/2019 8:15 AM
ML512 wrote:

I'll just throw my two ...more

colvin227 wrote:

ML, since this new setup ...more

ML512 wrote:

I gotta go back and listen ...more

Too the same extent as the RMZ? The rates between the two with the AOS system are the same correct? .50?

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Moto520 Moto520
7/11/2019 8:18 AM

Here's what we know:
the chassis is good. We know this from the the old 450F as well as last year's 250F
the suspension is great: we know this from the 2019 450
the motor is going to be better
the bike should be reliable: we know this from the 2019 450
the brakes are good: " "

The only variable and question mark will be reliability of the new motor. If it's good....she'll be a great bike.

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colvin227 colvin227
7/11/2019 8:23 AM
Moto520 wrote:

Here's what we know:
the ...more

Suspension from 2019 450 and this years 250 are totally different companies and different size so not exactly apples to apples. But I see your point both dual spring forks. That’s my only thing with concentrating solely on a high RPM ripper is sacrificing reliability to get that. That remains to be seen if it’ll be an issue. Doesn’t seem it is for the KTM, or Husky and that’s their powerband MO.

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ML512 ML512
7/11/2019 8:25 AM
colvin227 wrote:

ML, since this new setup ...more

ML512 wrote:

I gotta go back and listen ...more

colvin227 wrote:

Too the same extent as the ...more

It's not as bad as the RM-Z250, but still noticeable. I was a bit slower on rebound and softer on compression for the KX, but it still wasn't as comfortable as it should be.

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Markopolo400 Markopolo400
7/11/2019 8:26 AM
ML512 wrote:

I gotta go back and listen ...more

Oversprung @160lb. I've said it before Ill say it again. At least where I ride I don't see many people that light riding unless they are kids coming right off 80s.

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ML512 ML512
7/11/2019 8:34 AM
colvin227 wrote:

ML, since this new setup ...more

ML512 wrote:

I gotta go back and listen ...more

Markopolo400 wrote:

Oversprung @160lb. I've ...more

Target goal for most 250 development is 150lbs. Where I live, the majority of riders on a 250 are between 130-160lbs. I don't see very many big guys on a 250F.

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Markopolo400 Markopolo400
7/11/2019 9:14 AM
ML512 wrote:

Target goal for most 250 ...more

From the MFG? Just saying this is Japanese brand #2 to "overspring" a 250F.

Maybe it's just a Cali thing. But when I go to tracks in the midwest its a pretty even split between 250Fs and 450s for the Vet riders who seem to be the ones buying brand new bikes these days.

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Moto520 Moto520
7/11/2019 9:25 AM
colvin227 wrote:

Suspension from 2019 450 ...more

Good point. I missed/ forgot that the suspension is KYB and not Showa. I understand the idea and benefits in not having all of your cookies in one jar with suspension.....having multiple suppliers is a good idea to prevent potential production supply issues. I do, however, think it might make a better end product by having one suspension company fine tune the settings for each brand. Imagine the jump start that Kawi would have if they could carry over what they learned from the 2019 KX450 suspension testing.

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CarlinoJoeVideo CarlinoJoeVideo
7/11/2019 9:28 AM
Markopolo400 wrote:

Oversprung @160lb. I've ...more

ML512 wrote:

Target goal for most 250 ...more

Markopolo400 wrote:

From the MFG? Just saying ...more

I can agree with this. In the NW I did see more older bigger guys on 250s. Southern California is mostly young kids in n 250s. I think because I’m So Cal the tracks are so big and wide open older guys jump of 450s right away.

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ML512 ML512
7/11/2019 9:35 AM

Video was updated btw.

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brocster brocster
7/11/2019 9:42 AM
ML512 wrote:

I'll just throw my two ...more

colvin227 wrote:

Thank the lord. Not trying ...more

Yeah ML is never at a loss for words. Felt bad one day at Perris my adult adhd kicked in and I squirreled out on him and I think he caught it. Sorry ML, keep doing what you do. Well done!

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mxrose3 mxrose3
7/11/2019 10:32 AM
ML512 wrote:

Video was updated btw.

You do a great, detailed review on most bikes ML - great job!

I know a lot of people bash Kawi for not adding electric start, but i'll take lighter weight over electric start any day. But maybe i'm in the minority here.

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Markee Markee
7/11/2019 10:45 AM

14,000 RPM, that's 116 valve open/close a second I do believe blink

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Gworm Gworm
7/11/2019 11:19 AM
moscrop940 wrote:

Did I miss something or ...more

scott_nz wrote:

yes they dropped the F ...more

They ran smack out of F’s to give.

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mattyhamz2 mattyhamz2
7/11/2019 12:21 PM
ML512 wrote:

Video was updated btw.

Great video Michael! Looked like a 17 year old Bradshaw with that gear and hair out the back of the helmet laughing

Looking forward to the rest of the 2020 videos

2017 RMZ450
2005 YZ250-sold :,(
1998 YZ250
2005 KX250F

80% of the time it works every time
IG @hamdaddyof2 & @2HRacing
Thanks to : Factory Effex, N2Dirt, Acerbis, DT1, Fasthouse, Matix, FMF, ASV, 100% & Mika Metals

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Jarrod458 Jarrod458
7/11/2019 12:35 PM

Spoke with my wallet! In 💚💚💚💚 Photo
Photo

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mattyhamz2 mattyhamz2
7/11/2019 12:43 PM
Jarrod458 wrote:

Spoke with my wallet! In ...more

Congrats on the new ride man!

2017 RMZ450
2005 YZ250-sold :,(
1998 YZ250
2005 KX250F

80% of the time it works every time
IG @hamdaddyof2 & @2HRacing
Thanks to : Factory Effex, N2Dirt, Acerbis, DT1, Fasthouse, Matix, FMF, ASV, 100% & Mika Metals

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Moto520 Moto520
7/11/2019 12:59 PM
mattyhamz2 wrote:

Congrats on the new ride ...more

Ride that thing and give us a report!

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WW444 WW444
7/11/2019 1:05 PM

I'm surprised how early these bikes dropped. Usually they don't drop till after lorettas.

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Markopolo400 Markopolo400
7/11/2019 1:20 PM

Kawi sure has the launch timing down with availability. My 19 450 was available super early last year too.

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motox331 motox331
7/11/2019 1:25 PM

Kawasaki.........No F's Given

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280driver 280driver
7/11/2019 2:36 PM
Jarrod458 wrote:

Spoke with my wallet! In ...more

Sounds like it’s an awesome bike this year. Enjoy.

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kkawboy14 kkawboy14
7/11/2019 2:47 PM
ML512 wrote:

I'll just throw my two ...more

Good stuff!

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Sluggo77 Sluggo77
7/11/2019 4:09 PM
Markopolo400 wrote:

Oversprung @160lb. I've ...more

ML512 wrote:

Target goal for most 250 ...more

Markopolo400 wrote:

From the MFG? Just saying ...more

I haven't seen 130 since I was 12! The age range for this product, and weight is pretty darn big to fault the MFG if isn't suitable to a specific rider. Maybe the primary target is 15-25 yr old? Regardless it must be a pretty bad ass bike if that is something to harp on. Swap the springs for your weight/ability and go!! Not a big deal.

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Moto520 Moto520
7/11/2019 4:10 PM

I might get one of these. The Yamaha is too fat up front, the Suzuki is meh, the Honda is a total screamer, the KTM is a KTM. This might finally be the perfect balance of everything in a 250f.

Guys.....the Kawi 450 is such an awesome bike. I’ve had no problems with it after 40 hours. I’m not a Kawi guy (ive always had hondas) but they may have finally balanced everything out. Made a little cheaper? Yeah....i’d say so but these are race bikes anyways.

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Titan777 Titan777
7/11/2019 4:23 PM
ML512 wrote:

Video was updated btw.

Hey man, does previous (18') FMF's system fit the 2020 bike? It uses the same FRAME-COMP,RR
32160-0779.

(will it fit the newer 2021?).

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mxb2 mxb2
7/11/2019 4:30 PM

Call fmf.

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soggy soggy
7/11/2019 5:44 PM
ML512 wrote:

Video was updated btw.

Titan777 wrote:

Hey man, does previous ...more

2020 is barely out and this guy wants to know if 18 fmf system will fit 2021grin

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Titan777 Titan777
7/11/2019 5:54 PM
soggy wrote:

2020 is barely out and ...more

Yep. Why not? I just got a new FMF Ti system and wanted to know if I can use it with the new 2020 model.

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NoMuff2Tuff NoMuff2Tuff
7/11/2019 10:27 PM
Moto520 wrote:

I might get one of these. ...more

I'm looking to get a 2020 250f, I'm a Honda guy so I'm hoping the new changes improve the bike. If not it's good to know the Kawi made some good changes and I would consider it.

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