Husky TE250i

JW381
Posts
10642
Joined
7/21/2009
Location
Harrisburg, OR US
Edited Date/Time 12/19/2017 11:28pm
Kinda curious how those are doing? It seems like there was a lot of hoopla about it when it was first announced, and now there's not even a whisper.
|
thearc
Posts
223
Joined
5/1/2017
Location
Vancouver CA
12/18/2017 7:51pm
Cause they just started arriving in North America dealers.
Positive reviews.
Overall take away is that they lug amazingly well, but are a little low on power on the low end. Maps may change this. Some people have had problems with leaky oil tanks.
TeamGreen
Posts
29086
Joined
11/25/2008
Location
Thru-out, CA US
12/18/2017 8:11pm
TE300i later...I think as a '19 model.
Tim507
Posts
3144
Joined
6/8/2010
Location
Oregon City, OR US
12/18/2017 8:14pm
TeamGreen wrote:
TE300i later...I think as a '19 model.
I'll have to try one of these!
Crush
Posts
20962
Joined
4/26/2009
Location
Sydney AU
12/18/2017 8:19pm
Spoke to my mechanic who has the KTM injected. He is basically in love with it and had his 16 sorted with a JD kit before.

Pretty tempting!

The Shop

BobPA
Posts
8028
Joined
10/31/2013
Location
PA US
12/18/2017 8:20pm
TeamGreen wrote:
TE300i later...I think as a '19 model.
TX300i for 2019 pretty please??
tek14
Posts
4590
Joined
1/26/2014
Location
Vantaa FI
12/18/2017 11:53pm
I been on KTM 250 TPI half year. Best 2-stroke I have ever been on. Linear power curve without motor braking.
Lot of talk on offroad forums and not mostly all positive.
#434
Posts
1918
Joined
3/23/2017
Location
DE
12/19/2017 1:31am
Please let there be a 2019 125SXi! I know alot of people will say that it takes away the simplicity and low cost of 125s, but how awesome would it be to have a 125 that runs crisp all day, everywhere, no matter what weather or altitude...
144rider
Posts
140
Joined
12/3/2017
Location
AU
12/19/2017 1:47am
#434 wrote:
Please let there be a 2019 125SXi! I know alot of people will say that it takes away the simplicity and low cost of 125s, but...
Please let there be a 2019 125SXi! I know alot of people will say that it takes away the simplicity and low cost of 125s, but how awesome would it be to have a 125 that runs crisp all day, everywhere, no matter what weather or altitude...
You can have that now. Just fit a Lectron.
#434
Posts
1918
Joined
3/23/2017
Location
DE
12/19/2017 2:56am
#434 wrote:
Please let there be a 2019 125SXi! I know alot of people will say that it takes away the simplicity and low cost of 125s, but...
Please let there be a 2019 125SXi! I know alot of people will say that it takes away the simplicity and low cost of 125s, but how awesome would it be to have a 125 that runs crisp all day, everywhere, no matter what weather or altitude...
144rider wrote:
You can have that now. Just fit a Lectron.
Buying a Lectron costs about the same as adding efi and you don't have the advantages of separate oil and fuel, a much lower fuel consumption and the ability to easily switch mappings. Other than that the Lectron has to be setup too and isn't available in europe..
tek14
Posts
4590
Joined
1/26/2014
Location
Vantaa FI
12/19/2017 4:57am
Lectron doenst have anything against TPI.
jwoltz
Posts
284
Joined
6/24/2014
Location
Fresno, CA US
12/19/2017 6:28am
Setting up a lectron carb can cause some headaches too..... let’s be honest! Those 300’s. (TPI) Are gonna be harder than get than a factory edition I’m sure.
mx_563
Posts
2063
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
CA US
12/19/2017 6:56am
Is the delay in 300TPI availability due to marketing tactics or production readiness? On the Pulpmx show, Cody Webb seemed to imply that they were still working on the 300TPI but if they got the 250 production ready, I can't imagine it would be that much harder to get the 300 ready as well. Anybody know the story?
Motofinne
Posts
10691
Joined
1/4/2014
Location
FI
12/19/2017 6:59am
I rode both the 250 and 300 on a demo day. I'm not an offroad guy at all so my thoughts aren't that relevant but i liked the 250 way more than the 300.

The 250 felt way lighter and it was easier to ride.

If i would want a bike for the woods/trails the EXC 250 TPI would be the bike to buy.
Motofinne
Posts
10691
Joined
1/4/2014
Location
FI
12/19/2017 7:06am
mx_563 wrote:
Is the delay in 300TPI availability due to marketing tactics or production readiness? On the Pulpmx show, Cody Webb seemed to imply that they were still...
Is the delay in 300TPI availability due to marketing tactics or production readiness? On the Pulpmx show, Cody Webb seemed to imply that they were still working on the 300TPI but if they got the 250 production ready, I can't imagine it would be that much harder to get the 300 ready as well. Anybody know the story?
I have no idea but my guess is that the production of them is very limited and the European market is more important for these bikes. Just like the 2018 FE/RE bikes are only for the US market because of the production rule in US racing.
mx_563
Posts
2063
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
CA US
12/19/2017 7:06am
Motofinne wrote:
I rode both the 250 and 300 on a demo day. I'm not an offroad guy at all so my thoughts aren't that relevant but i...
I rode both the 250 and 300 on a demo day. I'm not an offroad guy at all so my thoughts aren't that relevant but i liked the 250 way more than the 300.

The 250 felt way lighter and it was easier to ride.

If i would want a bike for the woods/trails the EXC 250 TPI would be the bike to buy.
I haven't ridden any TPIs but in the last year I rode a 300xc and a YZ250 and my impression was the same. The 250 was easier to ride. But I'm 220lbs (100kg) and we have some big mountains in my neck of the woods. So the 250 has to endure some serious clutch abuse with my fat ass on it. I'm trying to keep my finger on the pulse and maybe for 2019 I'll pull the trigger. These TPIs are certainly tempting.

thearc
Posts
223
Joined
5/1/2017
Location
Vancouver CA
12/19/2017 7:08am
mx_563 wrote:
Is the delay in 300TPI availability due to marketing tactics or production readiness? On the Pulpmx show, Cody Webb seemed to imply that they were still...
Is the delay in 300TPI availability due to marketing tactics or production readiness? On the Pulpmx show, Cody Webb seemed to imply that they were still working on the 300TPI but if they got the 250 production ready, I can't imagine it would be that much harder to get the 300 ready as well. Anybody know the story?
300 is available in Europe and other markets.
In Europe they needed to meet emissions standards, so there was more motivation to get the TPI bikes out.
Those standards are not the same here so no rush to get the 300TPI out. May as well sell off 18 carb versions for another year in NA
TeamGreen
Posts
29086
Joined
11/25/2008
Location
Thru-out, CA US
12/19/2017 7:12am Edited Date/Time 12/19/2017 7:13am
From what I can tell...

The TPI bikes were simply a little late in the production cycle and that caused for lower qty's for '18. In sure there will be earlier/better availability in '19.

I haven't seen or heard of any other models that the Enduro models. I want to make a TC300i.
12/19/2017 8:41am Edited Date/Time 12/19/2017 8:43am

1)The tank to hold the twostroke oil breaks/ starts to leak

2)Some don´t get oil at all.... BAD

3) TPI new software upgraded version

4)Bad engine cases : cracks same for the 2017 model

mx_563
Posts
2063
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
CA US
12/19/2017 8:52am
Dirtdemon wrote:
1)The tank to hold the twostroke oil breaks/ starts to leak 2)Some don´t get oil at all.... BAD 3) TPI new software upgraded version 4)Bad engine...

1)The tank to hold the twostroke oil breaks/ starts to leak

2)Some don´t get oil at all.... BAD

3) TPI new software upgraded version

4)Bad engine cases : cracks same for the 2017 model

Wow! How do you know this???

Also...since you are in Sweden....tell me about the Novemberkåsan. I am fascinated. How does it work? Same place every year? Part of a series or stand-alone event?
HenryA
Posts
3789
Joined
12/29/2011
Location
Stockholm SE
12/19/2017 9:54am Edited Date/Time 12/19/2017 9:55am
mx_563 wrote:
Wow! How do you know this??? Also...since you are in Sweden....tell me about the Novemberkåsan. I am fascinated. How does it work? Same place every year...
Wow! How do you know this???

Also...since you are in Sweden....tell me about the Novemberkåsan. I am fascinated. How does it work? Same place every year? Part of a series or stand-alone event?
Not sure if people actually enjoy that race. Takes some serious skill to even finish it. You'll lap a circuit that is approximately 100km three times, once during daytime and twice during the night. Different place every year.

Take a look yourself and see what it was like this year:
agn5009
Posts
6757
Joined
6/8/2012
Location
State College, PA US
12/19/2017 10:24am
I want one bad. But I currently have a 300XC and don't know if I would like hopping down to the 250. I might just have to wait til the 300s come out.
mx_563
Posts
2063
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
CA US
12/19/2017 10:58am
I didn't realize it was 3x100km. That's nuts!
I've been watching the Novemberkåsan videos dating back to the late 90s. Fun to watch for sure.
So it's a stand-alone event or part of series?
HenryA
Posts
3789
Joined
12/29/2011
Location
Stockholm SE
12/19/2017 11:30am Edited Date/Time 12/19/2017 11:34am
mx_563 wrote:
I didn't realize it was 3x100km. That's nuts! I've been watching the Novemberkåsan videos dating back to the late 90s. Fun to watch for sure. So...
I didn't realize it was 3x100km. That's nuts!
I've been watching the Novemberkåsan videos dating back to the late 90s. Fun to watch for sure.
So it's a stand-alone event or part of series?
It's a stand alone event that is held once every year in november (hence the name). Only 18 riders finished the race this year...
The weather really makes it difficult, this was back in 2010:


I don't know if you have any knowledge about Gotland grand national but that is also a huuuuuuuge race that is held at the end of the year. Mike Brown actually raced it this year. And so did Stefan Everts a few years earlier.
Sorry for hijacking the thread. Silly
bowser
Posts
185
Joined
12/23/2013
Location
AU
12/19/2017 2:54pm
I have been on a 300TPI for a few weeks now. I love it, can't fault it at all.

I find a lot of the negatives are coming from either people who have never rode one and are just reading online and regurgitating what they see or people with carb bikes trying to justify why carbs are better.
Spergen
Posts
754
Joined
5/16/2011
Location
GB
12/19/2017 4:17pm Edited Date/Time 12/19/2017 4:18pm
Dirtdemon wrote:
1)The tank to hold the twostroke oil breaks/ starts to leak 2)Some don´t get oil at all.... BAD 3) TPI new software upgraded version 4)Bad engine...

1)The tank to hold the twostroke oil breaks/ starts to leak

2)Some don´t get oil at all.... BAD

3) TPI new software upgraded version

4)Bad engine cases : cracks same for the 2017 model

I can confirm these points too, the guys I talk to who are in the know keep singing the same song. It's not there yet but very close, hopefully next year they will have it sorted. As for the maps apparently dealers are getting updates almost weekly.

Oh and my blood runs orange. It's all I've owned since 04, just going to wait till next year to upgrade my enduro bike.
Rockinar
Posts
1064
Joined
9/16/2016
Location
Katy, TX US
12/19/2017 4:39pm
#434 wrote:
Please let there be a 2019 125SXi! I know alot of people will say that it takes away the simplicity and low cost of 125s, but...
Please let there be a 2019 125SXi! I know alot of people will say that it takes away the simplicity and low cost of 125s, but how awesome would it be to have a 125 that runs crisp all day, everywhere, no matter what weather or altitude...
Please God no.
jeffro503
Posts
27442
Joined
7/22/2007
Location
St Helens, OR US
12/19/2017 5:28pm
Guys.....will we see FI in the TC and SX versions in the near future? Gawd I hope so.....would be the best thing ever for me!
jeffro503
Posts
27442
Joined
7/22/2007
Location
St Helens, OR US
12/19/2017 5:30pm
#434 wrote:
Please let there be a 2019 125SXi! I know alot of people will say that it takes away the simplicity and low cost of 125s, but...
Please let there be a 2019 125SXi! I know alot of people will say that it takes away the simplicity and low cost of 125s, but how awesome would it be to have a 125 that runs crisp all day, everywhere, no matter what weather or altitude...
Rockinar wrote:
Please God no.
What? Why?
Tim507
Posts
3144
Joined
6/8/2010
Location
Oregon City, OR US
12/19/2017 8:08pm
Put my name and $ on TE300i today.
Rhino
Posts
482
Joined
11/20/2017
Location
US
12/19/2017 10:05pm Edited Date/Time 12/19/2017 10:13pm
Dirtdemon wrote:
1)The tank to hold the twostroke oil breaks/ starts to leak 2)Some don´t get oil at all.... BAD 3) TPI new software upgraded version 4)Bad engine...

1)The tank to hold the twostroke oil breaks/ starts to leak

2)Some don´t get oil at all.... BAD

3) TPI new software upgraded version

4)Bad engine cases : cracks same for the 2017 model

To me, this makes no sense for KTM/Husky.

1. Oil injection tanks have been on off road machines for damn near 50 years with zero problems. Maybe more!

2. Are they bleeding the pump? (Takes 5 seconds on some machines. Again, this is like 70 year old technology for oil injection total, and around 50 for off road machines that I know of.. The Yamaha DT200 or whatever was oil injected in the 70s or something.
Suzuki had oil injected bikes in the 60s and 70s.

You dont even need to bleed the pump if you run the first tank as premix, and you see the oil is in fact going down!
3. TPI mapping is cake. Again, 25-30 year old technology for 2 strokes OEM.
Why didn't they just use the same throttle bodies as other OEMS use?

4. WTF? Cracked cases weren't even a thing 40 years ago. I dont get it. Chain too tight? This seems almost impossible to me. WTF? Over!

I'm dreaming of a EFI, Oil Injected 300 2 stroke with a great powerful lighting coil with a kick start. I don't need no battery bullshit or electric start. Its a two stroke.

Im gonna plate it. That Beta 300RR with the quick disconnect front axle is what I thought would be first to the market as a 300 EFI with OI

Post a reply to: Husky TE250i

The Latest