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its about time the Japanese brands will DUMP these alu frames and make exact copy's of the KTM's , even the engines .
see how Cooper Webb is improved coming from Yamaha you cant say this has nothing to do with the bike !
so Yamaha, get back to the drawing board and design a succesfull engine (not reversed) ..and place it in a regular Steel frame !!!!
make those bikes cheaper than the KTM's , whats not so difficult , and get back in the game.
KTM podium sweep has to make it clear something has to change !
see how Cooper Webb is improved coming from Yamaha you cant say this has nothing to do with the bike !
so Yamaha, get back to the drawing board and design a succesfull engine (not reversed) ..and place it in a regular Steel frame !!!!
make those bikes cheaper than the KTM's , whats not so difficult , and get back in the game.
KTM podium sweep has to make it clear something has to change !
Webb training at Aldon could not make so much of a difference if he hate his bike !
Aldon is overhyped .
Barcia riding this well with this bulky bike has much to to with him riding over the top ..look at his takeoff already !
just my 2 cents
The Shop
I’d say Webb’s new training schedule has the most to do with his improvement. And yes, the Yamaha is a little different, so maybe that plays a part too. Didn’t Reed say Yamaha was going in the wrong direction with setup and wouldn’t listen to his input. Might be part of the problem there too. It can’t all be because of the steel frame and motor design.
It's not the bike.
Much Ty.
Pit Row
4 450 SX Championships were won on steel framed bikes vs 6 won on alu frames.
3 450 AMA MX Championships were won on steel framed bikes vs 7 won on alu frames.
7 MXGP Championships were won on steel framed bikes vs 3 won on alu frames.
Total: 14 out of 30 championships. Numbers don't lie.
I call bullshit on KTM Supremacy.
They sure have plenty of talent on KTM/Husky teams, no question about it.
One very important fact you left out is the number of riders on aluminum vs. steel. 4 + Aluminum manufacturers vs. 1 or 2 (including Husky) steel. Obviously more riders on those aluminum frames, that helps the odds of winning. AND really it’s more about the rider not the bike! (We all know this but fun to argue.)
Try again with those weak stats!
All kidding aside, it’s about rigidity/accuracy vs. forgiveness/less accuracy. Materials just part of equation. There’s a million other things that affect handling and rider feedback.
Flame on!
Oh and just for facts and numbers purposes, we measured a 14 yz450,17 rmz450 and 17 crf450 at different points in the frame and at the shrouds. The Yamaha was not the widest in any area we measured. That was split between the RMZ and CRF. The only thing with the Yamaha was the shrouds started going out earlier than the rest. That was the only time the Yamaha was wider than the other two, but shortly after that the other two caught up and became wider than the Yamaha.
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