Ken Roczen to Challenge MXGP Speedsters

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Edited Date/Time 9/14/2017 11:37pm
The few Snapshots posted of Roczen practice laps have looked smooth and Fast! Since he was a bit faster than our National Stars last year outdoors, I wonder how he will compare to 2018 World Class Speedsters?
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vschaik141 9/14/2017 9:19am
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I do believe a fit & healthy Roczen would beat Herlings at both sides of the pond atm, he has raced at most of the tracks before. Just hope Roczen will get back to the level he was at and we get to see those 2 race eachother at the mxon next year well not just those 2 but all the top mxgp & ama riders. JH84 could say this isn't even my final form. He'll be something different next year. (I think)
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agn5009 9/14/2017 9:30am
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Healthy Roczen could not beat a healthy Herlings anywhere except SX.
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HenryA 9/14/2017 9:52am
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The 2 time 450 AMA champion couldn't beat Herlings anywhere except in supercross? HAHA!

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tek14 9/14/2017 10:33am
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That is regional championship. Herlings in multiple World Champion..
Sheriff245 9/14/2017 10:35am
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tek14 wrote:
That is regional championship. Herlings in multiple World Champion..
As is Roczen. Against Herlings even.
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Falcon 9/14/2017 10:48am
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tek14 wrote:
That is regional championship. Herlings in multiple World Champion..
Sheriff245 wrote:
As is Roczen. Against Herlings even.
Was Herlings racing yet when Roczen won the world title? That was a long time ago.

I want to point out one thing that Tek14 (and lots of GP fans) miss: The GPs are roughly equivalent to the AMA "regional" championship. You can make a case that the GP regulars may be faster on average right now, but it's not like the AMA title is equivalent to the British national championship or the Belgian national championship. Lots of riders from all over the world come to America to race in what was, for much of the last 35 years, the most prestigious race series in the world. Up until recently, the "World" champions were not as fast as our "Regional" champs.
RichardLoots 9/14/2017 10:54am
9/14/2017 10:54am
maybe Kenny should race a USGP in future , or race the MXON on a bigbike ...until then , we dont know
GoggleFiend904 9/14/2017 10:55am
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tek14 wrote:
That is regional championship. Herlings in multiple World Champion..
*mx2 champion.






And I like herlings
Muscle-Milk-KTM 9/14/2017 10:58am
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Was Herlings racing yet when Roczen won the world title? That was a long time ago. I want to point out one thing that Tek14 (and...
Was Herlings racing yet when Roczen won the world title? That was a long time ago.

I want to point out one thing that Tek14 (and lots of GP fans) miss: The GPs are roughly equivalent to the AMA "regional" championship. You can make a case that the GP regulars may be faster on average right now, but it's not like the AMA title is equivalent to the British national championship or the Belgian national championship. Lots of riders from all over the world come to America to race in what was, for much of the last 35 years, the most prestigious race series in the world. Up until recently, the "World" champions were not as fast as our "Regional" champs.
Yes he did. Roczen turned Pro at 15 yrs old in April 2009. Herlings turned Pro that same year (15yrs old) at the MXON. They raced against one another for the next 3(?) years.
RichardLoots 9/14/2017 11:16am
9/14/2017 11:16am
Roczen was a year ahead in MX2 , Roczen started 2009 season , Herlings 2010 season .

Roczen was runner up when Musquin won in 2010 , Musquin left to USA
Herlings was runner up when Roczen won in 2011 , Roczen left to USA
Herlings won 2012
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peelout 9/14/2017 11:29am
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all i can say is that i (along with Kenny and everyone else in the motocross world) wish he had never had that injury. i would have loved to watch him dominate indoors and out and go against Herlings and AC. it's a total bummer but it is what it is.
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early 9/14/2017 11:30am
9/14/2017 11:30am Edited Date/Time 9/14/2017 11:34am
Didnt yall hear? Its Jeffrey Herlings world...and theres a bunch of guys watching him ride and jerking each other off.
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mx317 9/14/2017 11:36am
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As I stated before, talent doesn't know geography! This USA vs GP is bullshit as there are guys from both series capable of winning in the other series.
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IWreckALot 9/14/2017 12:04pm
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Exhibit A.

Roczen was quite a bit faster, but this was a great battle between the two. Time has past, and I think both guys have gained speed. Herlings is built like a brick shithouse compared to the normal rider. No way to know who's faster while healthy currently, but I guarantee that Roczen was foaming at the mouth watching Herlings stick it to our guys at Iron Mountain.

roundtheoutside 9/14/2017 12:13pm
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FTF MX wrote:
The few Snapshots posted of Roczen practice laps have looked smooth and Fast! Since he was a bit faster than our National Stars last year outdoors...
The few Snapshots posted of Roczen practice laps have looked smooth and Fast! Since he was a bit faster than our National Stars last year outdoors, I wonder how he will compare to 2018 World Class Speedsters?
"a bit faster than your national stars..."
You mean a tiny little bit? Cool
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JBecker 72 9/14/2017 12:15pm
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peelout wrote:
all i can say is that i (along with Kenny and everyone else in the motocross world) wish he had never had that injury. i would...
all i can say is that i (along with Kenny and everyone else in the motocross world) wish he had never had that injury. i would have loved to watch him dominate indoors and out and go against Herlings and AC. it's a total bummer but it is what it is.
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kkawboy14 9/14/2017 12:16pm
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Herlings couldn't beat Cairolli this year......

(But for the record I said a while ago Herlings would be up to speed in 3 months, I finally got something correct. Now if Kawasaki can win the shoot out Smile
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JW381 9/14/2017 12:22pm
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early wrote:
Didnt yall hear? Its Jeffrey Herlings world...and theres a bunch of guys watching him ride and jerking each other off.
Funny visual and 100% accurate
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mmain62 9/14/2017 12:44pm
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Don't care who is faster Herlings has the upper hand he called someone Cu^+ on tv (mel pocock). Best interview ever.
scottydogmx 9/14/2017 12:45pm
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Falcon wrote:
Was Herlings racing yet when Roczen won the world title? That was a long time ago. I want to point out one thing that Tek14 (and...
Was Herlings racing yet when Roczen won the world title? That was a long time ago.

I want to point out one thing that Tek14 (and lots of GP fans) miss: The GPs are roughly equivalent to the AMA "regional" championship. You can make a case that the GP regulars may be faster on average right now, but it's not like the AMA title is equivalent to the British national championship or the Belgian national championship. Lots of riders from all over the world come to America to race in what was, for much of the last 35 years, the most prestigious race series in the world. Up until recently, the "World" champions were not as fast as our "Regional" champs.
I would like to point out that the British championships until recently had people from all over the world racing in them ( not sure they specifically came to race them)
Zach Osbourne
Arnaud Tonus
Mike Brown
Josh Coppins
Tanel Leok
Sebastian Pourcel
Ken De Dycker
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MohMoto14 9/14/2017 12:51pm
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agn5009 wrote:
Healthy Roczen could not beat a healthy Herlings anywhere except SX.
Its always nice to see a troll venture out from under their bridge.
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oldblood 9/14/2017 1:10pm
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early wrote:
Didnt yall hear? Its Jeffrey Herlings world...and theres a bunch of guys watching him ride and jerking each other off.
Going through some bad times right now and that just made me laugh like hell!
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Jasper125 9/14/2017 1:14pm
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FTF MX wrote:
The few Snapshots posted of Roczen practice laps have looked smooth and Fast! Since he was a bit faster than our National Stars last year outdoors...
The few Snapshots posted of Roczen practice laps have looked smooth and Fast! Since he was a bit faster than our National Stars last year outdoors, I wonder how he will compare to 2018 World Class Speedsters?
Roczen also posted snapshots of him playing golf looked smooth and the balls went far, i wonder how he would compare to Rickie Fowler...

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Acidreamer 9/14/2017 1:15pm
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Its going to be a while. Hes not even at a pro speed yet.
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agn5009 9/14/2017 1:37pm
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agn5009 wrote:
Healthy Roczen could not beat a healthy Herlings anywhere except SX.
MohMoto14 wrote:
Its always nice to see a troll venture out from under their bridge.
Trolls don't last 5 years on a MX forum. I'm not trolling, it's my honest opinion. Herlings had an up and down ROOKIE 450 year. He's been fantastic this second half. Anyone not expecting him to win multiple championships from here on out is crazy. I believe Jeffrey is faster than Kenny.
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oldblood 9/14/2017 1:47pm
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I would say Kenny is already winning the only race that really matters to him right now, the recovery from a significant injury.
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jeffro503 9/14/2017 1:49pm
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HenryA wrote:
The 2 time 450 AMA champion couldn't beat Herlings anywhere except in supercross? HAHA!
I laughed at that too Henry. Haha.
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kiwifan 9/14/2017 1:49pm
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agn5009 wrote:
Healthy Roczen could not beat a healthy Herlings anywhere except SX.
MohMoto14 wrote:
Its always nice to see a troll venture out from under their bridge.
agn5009 wrote:
Trolls don't last 5 years on a MX forum. I'm not trolling, it's my honest opinion. Herlings had an up and down ROOKIE 450 year. He's...
Trolls don't last 5 years on a MX forum. I'm not trolling, it's my honest opinion. Herlings had an up and down ROOKIE 450 year. He's been fantastic this second half. Anyone not expecting him to win multiple championships from here on out is crazy. I believe Jeffrey is faster than Kenny.
I get your point, I also think Gajser (if he keeps healthy) will win neat year, but I certainly wouldn't count out Herlings winning a few and finishing runner-up ...call me crazy

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