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...on social media right now.
New rule they will be enforcing that says trainers/photographers/mom/dad/etc are not allowed on the track anymore.
Insurance is putting their foot down.
What are your thoughts? Here are mine:
1. Flaggers generally suck. Im not sure what the solution is. Because relying solely on them for safety aint too safe. They're minimum wage goons. You (the rider) get what you pay for.
2. Sucks that trainers or photographers cannot sign a waiver that would appease the insurance company.
3. The watch towers at Milestone are their own insurance/safety hazard. In fact, all of the infrastructure there is a mess. The fencing is BAD. Entrance to the tracks is a shitshow.
4. What about the 50 track? No more parents out there? I dont see how this is realistic.
5. One big benefit I could see is that psycho-moto-dad now has to stay by the truck where he belongs. Let your kid just go enjoy himself.
Im not bitching. Insurance is a nightmare and California is a sue-happy state. I'd rather have a place to ride than see it shut down.
New rule they will be enforcing that says trainers/photographers/mom/dad/etc are not allowed on the track anymore.
Insurance is putting their foot down.
What are your thoughts? Here are mine:
1. Flaggers generally suck. Im not sure what the solution is. Because relying solely on them for safety aint too safe. They're minimum wage goons. You (the rider) get what you pay for.
2. Sucks that trainers or photographers cannot sign a waiver that would appease the insurance company.
3. The watch towers at Milestone are their own insurance/safety hazard. In fact, all of the infrastructure there is a mess. The fencing is BAD. Entrance to the tracks is a shitshow.
4. What about the 50 track? No more parents out there? I dont see how this is realistic.
5. One big benefit I could see is that psycho-moto-dad now has to stay by the truck where he belongs. Let your kid just go enjoy himself.
Im not bitching. Insurance is a nightmare and California is a sue-happy state. I'd rather have a place to ride than see it shut down.
They shouldn't be out there anyway.
2. I see waaaaaay too many parents NOT knowing that thier kids are in danger when they're out on the track WITH THE PROS! (Again: 50/65/85)
3. I'm guessing groups like the USMCA might make some of these issues better AND be able to help with the insurance problem for actual QUALIFIED coaches and trainers.
I've seen sooooo many "so called" coaches that shouldn't be out there...at all.
On the other-hand: guys like Marty Smith and Buddy Antunez are AMAZING with kids.
I have no problem with this.
Rent a private track for you training sessions instead ruining the experience for others at a public track.
The Shop
I agree with a lot of what you said. But as I said, I dont know what the solution is. I cannot fault a parent for wanting to supervise their kid riding. On the other hand, kids on 80's dont belong on the same track as A class riders on 450's.
I see fast guys on the C track that have no business being there.
"A" level riders get out on the B/vet track and create their own hazard.
I dont blame the kids on the 80cc bikes for wanting to get out on the B or A (main) track because those tracks get the most attention. The C track is a pretty half ass effort these days.
Maybe the second half of this solution is to limit who is allowed on the tracks at what time. That would probably piss off a lot of people as well. But something along the lines of every 30 minutes the displacement allowed on a track changes.
- 65/85/150's
- 250/350/450's
- Dont let C's on the Main Track
- Dont let B's on the Beginner Track
- Dont let A's on the Vet Track
I hate demanding anything of the tracks. I know money is tight as it is. But Milestone could do a lot better.
But to answer your question, if I read Milestone's answers on IG right, NOBODY on the track except flaggers and people on a bike.
HOWEVER, i think if a rider has a pro card he can have a trainer. Thats different than daddy coaching 6 year old JR.
There are a few quieter less known tracks that still operate an open track, they were great for pre-season prep but are few and far between.
No one other than marshals are allowed outside the spectator areas either.
Pit Row
Most of the training like moto schools etc are done on weekdays or off weekends privately not on a regular practice day.
What exactly does that mean?
P.S.: Social media sucks...
For those of us that have road raced and done road racing trackdays, motocross's cavalier attitude towards safety is appalling, on many fronts.
Milestone gets especially overrun with foot traffic belonging to people that are utterly clueless about proper trackside etiquette.
Minibikes (like 50's and 65's) on the main tracks is absurd also.
If safety is a concern, then let's actually make things safer.
Fixing the flagger issue just isnt going to happen. $10 and hour gets you what you pay for. It is what it is.
Separating the riders by skill & bike size just makes sense. That is, if safety is a concern. It shouldnt take a insurance agent to demand this happen, but it probably will.
I'll say it again:
- 65/85/150's
- 250/350/450's
- Dont let C's on the Main Track
- Dont let B's on the Beginner Track
- Dont let A's on the Vet Track
Or at least, it should. I doubt it does.
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