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calcoast 9/20/2017 4:41pm
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Is there a list with any of the triple digit guys? I can't find anything online past the top 100.
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DC wrote:
The numbers were just released and James Stewart will keep #7. He notified the AMA by letter of his intentions to return to racing in 2018...
The numbers were just released and James Stewart will keep #7. He notified the AMA by letter of his intentions to return to racing in 2018.

http://racerxonline.com/2017/09/20/2018-ama-supercross-and-motocross-nu…

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m.hardesty16 wrote:
Why is Ryan Dungy on the list?
Because he's the defending SX champ. Canard is also on the list with #41.

Both retired but they scored points so they get to keep their numbers.
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... Wey did some volunteer work too. :) [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/09/20/215798/s1200_Screenshot_2017_09_20_at_3.42.30_PM.jpg[/img]
... Wey did some volunteer work too. Smile



You beat me to it!

That was definitley one of my top 5 moments of the 2017 mx season. Hate to see Plessinger go down, but what a hero Nick Wey was in that moment.
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Alex Ray 91! Good job buddy!

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bultokid wrote:
The whole career number thing blows. It was a lame attempt to copy Napcar. Run what ya earn....was always cool seeing the new riders/numbers combo every...
The whole career number thing blows. It was a lame attempt to copy Napcar. Run what ya earn....was always cool seeing the new riders/numbers combo every year
its nothing like the nascar system, car owners own the numbers in nascar, not the drivers,

it is a hybrid of the old flat track system, i can understand why riders want to be able to have permanent number
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Johnny Ringo 9/20/2017 6:52pm
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shaunbruce827 wrote:
Curious how this all works.. will Hansen be forced to run 72? Or will he have the option of choosing his number 100?
-MAVERICK- wrote:
He petitioned and got to run the 100. I thought he had made a case because it was his "brand" or whatever making it his career...
He petitioned and got to run the 100. I thought he had made a case because it was his "brand" or whatever making it his career number.

Now 72 is listed as his 2018 number. Not sure why 100 doesn't have an * signaling that it's his career number like the 800 of Alessi.
Mike earned enough points to make 800 his career number, Josh didn't
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ga_pike 9/20/2017 6:57pm
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You'd think that with career numbers, they would let racers/teams sell rider specific gear at the races. That's one of the things that would make this a positive system is racers and teams being able to make $$$ off marketing themselves.

Hell, all the talk about how to get teams and spomsors to stay in the sport... let them sell merch at the events.
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bultokid wrote:
The whole career number thing blows. It was a lame attempt to copy Napcar. Run what ya earn....was always cool seeing the new riders/numbers combo every...
The whole career number thing blows. It was a lame attempt to copy Napcar. Run what ya earn....was always cool seeing the new riders/numbers combo every year
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Johnny Depp 9/20/2017 7:46pm
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This system is flawed to begin with. Initials is your # for life. If you have duplicates put a # before or after it.
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mxb2 wrote:
X2,entitled society.
enTITLED society. ......fixed it for you. Sorry, I couldn't resist. Wink
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mxb2 9/20/2017 9:04pm
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mxb2 wrote:
X2,entitled society.
JB 19 wrote:
enTITLED society. ......fixed it for you. Sorry, I couldn't resist. Wink
ThanksDryDry
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mxjon454 9/20/2017 9:08pm
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
^^^ Lame
Plugga wrote:
The whole numbering system is lame. Run what you earn.
mxb2 wrote:
X2,entitled society.
The entitled society mustve came in 2000 huh
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mxjon454 9/20/2017 9:11pm
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
^^^ Lame
I agree that its pretty lame. I liked the old system of run what you earn. I just saw the post from the AStars thread and man im sorry to hear what happened to you. The equipment AStars is coming out with could/will definitely help people. Keep up the good work with the canadian threads you do, you dont miss a beat out there. Ohh ya Pourcel was only giving it 50% of what he had up there hahahaha jk
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mxb2 9/20/2017 9:21pm
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Plugga wrote:
The whole numbering system is lame. Run what you earn.
mxb2 wrote:
X2,entitled society.
mxjon454 wrote:
The entitled society mustve came in 2000 huh
Run what you earn, get the points. Nobody deserves a held number that hasn't raced in a year.
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ga_pike wrote:
You'd think that with career numbers, they would let racers/teams sell rider specific gear at the races. That's one of the things that would make this...
You'd think that with career numbers, they would let racers/teams sell rider specific gear at the races. That's one of the things that would make this a positive system is racers and teams being able to make $$$ off marketing themselves.

Hell, all the talk about how to get teams and spomsors to stay in the sport... let them sell merch at the events.
I agree with you on this. The sport, and these athletes need this something awful....
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mxb2 wrote:
X2,entitled society.
JB 19 wrote:
enTITLED society. ......fixed it for you. Sorry, I couldn't resist. Wink
mxb2 wrote:
ThanksDryDry
They won a title right? (Championship)
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IceMan446 9/20/2017 11:09pm
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Johnny Depp wrote:
This system is flawed to begin with. Initials is your # for life. If you have duplicates put a # before or after it.
how do you pick who gets what number???

IT would all just start over except now with initials being thrown in.

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smee113 9/20/2017 11:53pm
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shaunbruce827 wrote:
Curious how this all works.. will Hansen be forced to run 72? Or will he have the option of choosing his number 100?
-MAVERICK- wrote:
He petitioned and got to run the 100. I thought he had made a case because it was his "brand" or whatever making it his career...
He petitioned and got to run the 100. I thought he had made a case because it was his "brand" or whatever making it his career number.

Now 72 is listed as his 2018 number. Not sure why 100 doesn't have an * signaling that it's his career number like the 800 of Alessi.
Not true. Hansen got to run the 100 because he didn't race in the US in 2016. Alessi is able to run the 800 because he picked it as his career number when they used to allow riders to pick three-digit permanents. That's since been changed, but he was grandfathered in.

Assuming Hansen races in 2018, he will have to run the #72.

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-MAVERICK- 9/21/2017 12:32am
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shaunbruce827 wrote:
Curious how this all works.. will Hansen be forced to run 72? Or will he have the option of choosing his number 100?
-MAVERICK- wrote:
He petitioned and got to run the 100. I thought he had made a case because it was his "brand" or whatever making it his career...
He petitioned and got to run the 100. I thought he had made a case because it was his "brand" or whatever making it his career number.

Now 72 is listed as his 2018 number. Not sure why 100 doesn't have an * signaling that it's his career number like the 800 of Alessi.
smee113 wrote:
Not true. Hansen got to run the 100 because he didn't race in the US in 2016. Alessi is able to run the 800 because he...
Not true. Hansen got to run the 100 because he didn't race in the US in 2016. Alessi is able to run the 800 because he picked it as his career number when they used to allow riders to pick three-digit permanents. That's since been changed, but he was grandfathered in.

Assuming Hansen races in 2018, he will have to run the #72.
I thought for sure the numbers 100, 101 & 111 were reserved for international riders for when they come over to the U.S. or something like that and that's why he made a case for it since he had been running it for years.

I just remember that he was granted the 100 and I won't be a bit surprised if we see him running that number on his bike come 2018 SX.

Honestly, if they want to keep giving out permanent numbers I say let him have the 100. Practically no one runs that number. Personally I think all the numbers that end with 00 don't look good.
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smee113 9/21/2017 1:44am
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
I thought for sure the numbers 100, 101 & 111 were reserved for international riders for when they come over to the U.S. or something like...
I thought for sure the numbers 100, 101 & 111 were reserved for international riders for when they come over to the U.S. or something like that and that's why he made a case for it since he had been running it for years.

I just remember that he was granted the 100 and I won't be a bit surprised if we see him running that number on his bike come 2018 SX.

Honestly, if they want to keep giving out permanent numbers I say let him have the 100. Practically no one runs that number. Personally I think all the numbers that end with 00 don't look good.
Yeah, technically 100-115 are supposed to be reserved for international champions, and top US riders coming off season-long injuries. Not sure why Hansen was given an exception originally, but they've continued to allow him to use it from year to year.

Regardless, a rider must wear a two-digit number if they earn one (as of 2011). I've only seen two exceptions to this; the first was when Pourcel had his #377 reinstated as a permanent after earning national #30 for 2016; and Collier, who was allowed to run the #207 after earning #96 for 2015. I think Collier's situation may have been an oversight, though.
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mxb2 wrote:
X2,entitled society.
mxjon454 wrote:
The entitled society mustve came in 2000 huh
mxb2 wrote:
Run what you earn, get the points. Nobody deserves a held number that hasn't raced in a year.
I like when they post the points earned to get a top 100 number.
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mxb2 9/21/2017 5:01am
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JB 19 wrote:
enTITLED society. ......fixed it for you. Sorry, I couldn't resist. Wink
mxb2 wrote:
ThanksDryDry
JB 19 wrote:
They won a title right? (Championship)
Yep,. Earn any points?
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
^^^ Lame
Plugga wrote:
The whole numbering system is lame. Run what you earn.
This is the proper answer
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Johnny Depp 9/21/2017 5:38am
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Johnny Depp wrote:
This system is flawed to begin with. Initials is your # for life. If you have duplicates put a # before or after it.
IceMan446 wrote:
how do you pick who gets what number???

IT would all just start over except now with initials being thrown in.

The whole idea is to easily identify a rider. Why we let the teams and sponsors represent themselves and the riders get some obscure # that you have to look up on a chart or wait for the ticker on TV to even figure out what is happening in a race. I can't tell you the number of times I haven't had a clue who is in what position early in the season or at the Motodnations. On here we identify riders commonly as MM25 or JS7 etc. Why not the same on the bikes? How many times have you seen on this forum where guys say "was that you at chicken licks raceway Sunday on the Yonda # 234?" I was pitted right next to you. We don't even know each other's name's at the local level.

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People getting all "Antifa" up in here about some damn numbers Bro!

I'm out!
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JB 19 9/21/2017 5:56am
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mxb2 wrote:
ThanksDryDry
JB 19 wrote:
They won a title right? (Championship)
mxb2 wrote:
Yep,. Earn any points?
I'm not following you. Isn't winning a title earning a number? I'm not sure what's going on with Stewart. Seems like an isolated incident with his number. My opinion is that he should lose his number, but it won't matter anyway because we won't see him back. Maybe you can elaborate. I don't have inside contacts. My simple point is how do you call a past champion who is still earning points entitled?

Also, I think it's hard to argue that the numbering system benefited situations like Reed and his race team, Stewart's clothing company, the Dungey KTM replica bikes that came with number 5.....etc.

I just like to watch badass guys race dirt bikes and I'm not understanding what makes these guys entitled by running a number that they EARNED the right to pick. It isn't like we are letting rookies run single digit numbers because they won 300 amateur races.
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JB 19 9/21/2017 6:02am
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For the record, I suspect the fans get more bent about the numbers than the riders. Plenty of guys like Roczen, Barcia, Reed and Alessi running high numbers because it's the number they want to run.
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Johnny Depp 9/21/2017 9:08am
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Johnny Depp wrote:
This system is flawed to begin with. Initials is your # for life. If you have duplicates put a # before or after it.
IceMan446 wrote:
how do you pick who gets what number???

IT would all just start over except now with initials being thrown in.

Johnny Depp wrote:
The whole idea is to easily identify a rider. Why we let the teams and sponsors represent themselves and the riders get some obscure # that...
The whole idea is to easily identify a rider. Why we let the teams and sponsors represent themselves and the riders get some obscure # that you have to look up on a chart or wait for the ticker on TV to even figure out what is happening in a race. I can't tell you the number of times I haven't had a clue who is in what position early in the season or at the Motodnations. On here we identify riders commonly as MM25 or JS7 etc. Why not the same on the bikes? How many times have you seen on this forum where guys say "was that you at chicken licks raceway Sunday on the Yonda # 234?" I was pitted right next to you. We don't even know each other's name's at the local level.

25 letters vs 10 numbers. with 30 riders on the gate and maybe 60 per class on the same day the odds are slim of duplicates, just add a single number after the initials based on last years points. Simple.

Seems like a majority here think the system sucks. Fans are confused and the sport is going backwards. Nah, forget it, let's not change anything, think about the tradition.
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MotoX85 9/21/2017 9:20am
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DC wrote:
The numbers were just released and James Stewart will keep #7. He notified the AMA by letter of his intentions to return to racing in 2018...
The numbers were just released and James Stewart will keep #7. He notified the AMA by letter of his intentions to return to racing in 2018.

http://racerxonline.com/2017/09/20/2018-ama-supercross-and-motocross-nu…

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So how does that allow him to keep his number if he didn't earn any points in 2017?

And did you call John Dowd and ask him if it was ok since his number was taken away when he didn't earn the required points when he was racing?

Now with that being said, can we go back to what number the rider earned for the year please. Pretty much ruins certain riders drive to get points when they know they are going to keep a low number no matter how much they sit out of racing.
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I do not understand how anyone likes the "run what earned" system. Riders with a permanent number are easily identifiable for the fans and allow the rider to base their social media(lets face it, this matters now) or even team names around a number (22 motorsports, seven, etc.). i like that it is mandatory for the defending champion has to run the number 1, all the other numbers are irrelevant really.....who cares who got 34th in points the previous year.

Do you really think if a rider earns number 74 that he feels that much more badass than the dude who earned 81?

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