OH snap, so the females rule got yanked?

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4/9/2010 1:04pm
I can watch you sock yourself in the nuts all day.

That's the funniest thing I've read here all day.
4/9/2010 1:06pm
"edit: Yes I am a rider I know a 125 makes no difference to who is on top of it."

So a big guy can put in the same laps on a 125 as a 250f? Would your lap times be the same on a 125 around Glen Helen as they would be on a nice new 250F?
4/9/2010 1:07pm
Tiki wrote:
Hold on there Quickdraw.
The women can still ride 125cc two strokes correct?
Really Tiki? You need to go there? Sometimes you write really smart shit, then others...
Tiki wrote:
WAIT I thought YOU said two strokes were lighter, faster, less expensive. Now are you implying they are inferior? Seriously I'm not the one starting these...
WAIT I thought YOU said two strokes were lighter, faster, less expensive. Now are you implying they are inferior?


Seriously I'm not the one starting these lame ass threads. I can watch you sock yourself in the nuts all day.


Back to the point, the old rules said 125 two strokes or 250f four strokes. It is a two stroke. How is it possible that a 125 can wax a field of 450's but they can't do it with a woman on it? It is only possible when it works for your agenda? - edit: Yes I am a rider I know a 125 makes no difference to who is on top of it.


FYI the only rules posted are AMA pro. The W omen's addendum shows "No Article Found" for me. http://www.trpro.com/...ders_rules_pro.shtml
My "lame" threads keep going like the energizer bunny baby. Just the way I like it.
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4/9/2010 1:07pm
kawboy388 wrote:
Last brand new 2 stroke- 2003 YZ250 July 2003-5500 OTD at North Texas Yamaha Last brand new 4 stroke-2008.5 RMZ450 Nov. 2008-5800 OTD at Double B...
Last brand new 2 stroke- 2003 YZ250 July 2003-5500 OTD at North Texas Yamaha

Last brand new 4 stroke-2008.5 RMZ450 Nov. 2008-5800 OTD at Double B Suzuki and RV Supercenter
Thanks! Was that the price of the bike when it was first released, or the next year when it was an old model?

Im wondering what the 2010 CRF, YZF and KXF cost right now OTD?

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4/9/2010 1:08pm
What bike are you going to get for 5K OTD? If you think it is a 250 2T you might want to check out prices. You...
What bike are you going to get for 5K OTD? If you think it is a 250 2T you might want to check out prices. You really think there would be a $3K difference? What bike is $8K or better question who is paying $8K for a new bike right now?
Racer92 wrote:
Thats what a new 250 smoker cost last time I saw them in showrooms. Ive been told the 450s are at 8-grand OTD. What info do...
Thats what a new 250 smoker cost last time I saw them in showrooms. Ive been told the 450s are at 8-grand OTD. What info do you have on that?
kawboy388 wrote:
Last brand new 2 stroke- 2003 YZ250 July 2003-5500 OTD at North Texas Yamaha Last brand new 4 stroke-2008.5 RMZ450 Nov. 2008-5800 OTD at Double B...
Last brand new 2 stroke- 2003 YZ250 July 2003-5500 OTD at North Texas Yamaha

Last brand new 4 stroke-2008.5 RMZ450 Nov. 2008-5800 OTD at Double B Suzuki and RV Supercenter
Dallas dealer: RM-Z450
MSRP $7,899.00*
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4/9/2010 1:08pm
pie8man wrote:
I can watch you sock yourself in the nuts all day.

That's the funniest thing I've read here all day.
agreed....points awarded on that one!Laughing
4/9/2010 1:10pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 10:00pm
What bike are you going to get for 5K OTD? If you think it is a 250 2T you might want to check out prices. You...
What bike are you going to get for 5K OTD? If you think it is a 250 2T you might want to check out prices. You really think there would be a $3K difference? What bike is $8K or better question who is paying $8K for a new bike right now?
Racer92 wrote:
Thats what a new 250 smoker cost last time I saw them in showrooms. Ive been told the 450s are at 8-grand OTD. What info do...
Thats what a new 250 smoker cost last time I saw them in showrooms. Ive been told the 450s are at 8-grand OTD. What info do you have on that?
You saw a 250 2T in a showroom for $5K? What showroom was that in because I know a few ppl that will be all over that.

This guy paid $7600 CDN OTD for an '08 YZ250 and another guy said he paid $6900 US for an '09 YZ250.
http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-875610.html

$6600 for an 09
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/2009/yamaha/yz/250/prices/26395/05/index.html

$6900 for a 10
http://www.fppowersports.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?sid=02700922X12K19K2009J2I52I40JAMQ1686R0&veh=149533&CatDesc=Motorcycles&ModelYear=2010


4/9/2010 1:10pm
DC wrote:
Two-stroke 250s still faster than 250Fs.

DC
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let the riders choose.....
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4/9/2010 1:15pm
Panic, I bought mine in 2006 when everyone was hopping on the 4-stroke bandwagon and the smokers werent moving around here.
4/9/2010 1:16pm
bogdan912 wrote:
You two stroke die hards need to get over it. Most of the OEMs don't even make new ones anymore!
The good ones do AND all but honda still make them for over seas markets....
4/9/2010 1:20pm
DC wrote:
Two-stroke 250s still faster than 250Fs.

DC
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lostboy819 wrote:
Yes and 450fs are still faster than 250 two strokes, so what are you doing to fix that?
GREAT point....
4/9/2010 1:22pm
Wouldn't it be nice, if the 150cc rule was passed. Then you wouldn't see a 2 stroke post again. That would be nice, no?
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4/9/2010 1:22pm
DC wrote:
Two-stroke 250s still faster than 250Fs.

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lostboy819 wrote:
Yes and 450fs are still faster than 250 two strokes, so what are you doing to fix that?
GREAT point....
450 2 stroke!
4/9/2010 1:22pm Edited Date/Time 4/9/2010 1:23pm
What bike are you going to get for 5K OTD? If you think it is a 250 2T you might want to check out prices. You...
What bike are you going to get for 5K OTD? If you think it is a 250 2T you might want to check out prices. You really think there would be a $3K difference? What bike is $8K or better question who is paying $8K for a new bike right now?
Racer92 wrote:
Thats what a new 250 smoker cost last time I saw them in showrooms. Ive been told the 450s are at 8-grand OTD. What info do...
Thats what a new 250 smoker cost last time I saw them in showrooms. Ive been told the 450s are at 8-grand OTD. What info do you have on that?
You saw a 250 2T in a showroom for $5K? What showroom was that in because I know a few ppl that will be all over...
You saw a 250 2T in a showroom for $5K? What showroom was that in because I know a few ppl that will be all over that.

This guy paid $7600 CDN OTD for an '08 YZ250 and another guy said he paid $6900 US for an '09 YZ250.
http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-875610.html

$6600 for an 09
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/2009/yamaha/yz/250/prices/26395/05/index.html

$6900 for a 10
http://www.fppowersports.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?sid=02700922X12K19K2009J2I52I40JAMQ1686R0&veh=149533&CatDesc=Motorcycles&ModelYear=2010


beach boulevard yamaha in Jacksonville told me they would sell me a 2010 YZ250 for $6300 OTD if they could get one.. Only problem was it there was only one within 400 miles of their shop, and that shop wouldnt do a dealer trade, and was asking a grand over retail for the bike
4/9/2010 1:22pm
kawboy388 wrote:
Last brand new 2 stroke- 2003 YZ250 July 2003-5500 OTD at North Texas Yamaha Last brand new 4 stroke-2008.5 RMZ450 Nov. 2008-5800 OTD at Double B...
Last brand new 2 stroke- 2003 YZ250 July 2003-5500 OTD at North Texas Yamaha

Last brand new 4 stroke-2008.5 RMZ450 Nov. 2008-5800 OTD at Double B Suzuki and RV Supercenter
Racer92 wrote:
Thanks! Was that the price of the bike when it was first released, or the next year when it was an old model? Im wondering what...
Thanks! Was that the price of the bike when it was first released, or the next year when it was an old model?

Im wondering what the 2010 CRF, YZF and KXF cost right now OTD?
LOL. You are going to compare a 2003 and a 2008 in 2010?Woohoo

The 2010 450's msrp around $8K and you can pick up 09's for $5000 and 08's for $4400ish OTD
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4/9/2010 1:23pm
bogdan912 wrote:
You two stroke die hards need to get over it. Most of the OEMs don't even make new ones anymore!
The good ones do AND all but honda still make them for over seas markets....
Interesting this comes up again today... Do they? Really? What could ever the reason be America is different?


This is a Ford. Why can't I get it here in the United States?
4/9/2010 1:24pm
Racer92 wrote:
Panic, I bought mine in 2006 when everyone was hopping on the 4-stroke bandwagon and the smokers werent moving around here.
That explains it then. I paid more for my 450 in '06 than I can get an '09 for right now.
4/9/2010 1:24pm
You saw a 250 2T in a showroom for $5K? What showroom was that in because I know a few ppl that will be all over...
You saw a 250 2T in a showroom for $5K? What showroom was that in because I know a few ppl that will be all over that.

This guy paid $7600 CDN OTD for an '08 YZ250 and another guy said he paid $6900 US for an '09 YZ250.
http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-875610.html

$6600 for an 09
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/2009/yamaha/yz/250/prices/26395/05/index.html

$6900 for a 10
http://www.fppowersports.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?sid=02700922X12K19K2009J2I52I40JAMQ1686R0&veh=149533&CatDesc=Motorcycles&ModelYear=2010


The thing is, let's compare a 250 vs 250 as far as building cost. The cost of building a new 2010 250F has to be a ton more than a 6 year old design bike. So even though costs on the floor may be close. The cost of making them are not even close.
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4/9/2010 1:26pm
Wouldn't it be nice, if the 150cc rule was passed. Then you wouldn't see a 2 stroke post again. That would be nice, no?
Why does it have to be a rule? I can buy one - for now, KTM makes a sweet 150. Good chance if I had the money I could get one tomorrow. Why does a rule from a race organizer have to be imposed?
4/9/2010 1:27pm Edited Date/Time 4/17/2016 10:00pm
Go find a 150sx bud.
edited for dumbass: answer to your question: Because people buy what pros race.
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4/9/2010 1:28pm
Funny how butt hurt the four stroke lovers get when the 2 stroke issue comes up. Point is, DC got the 250 2 stroke approved for the womens class. Now they flip flopped on the deal? Who exactly is the flopper this time?
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4/9/2010 1:31pm
LOL. You are going to compare a 2003 and a 2008 in 2010?:woohoo: The 2010 450's msrp around $8K and you can pick up 09's for...
LOL. You are going to compare a 2003 and a 2008 in 2010?Woohoo

The 2010 450's msrp around $8K and you can pick up 09's for $5000 and 08's for $4400ish OTD
Dude, Im not trying to be adversarial about this stuff, just asking questions.

So those prices you are quoting more about nobody wanting a 4-stroke? Or what is it that is making them so cheap? If you had 2-smokes on the showroom floor, they probably would have an even harder time moving those thumpers. Right?


4/9/2010 1:32pm
ProAMA is OEM's. EngineIceDave even admitted they are on the board or are high voting members.
flarider wrote:
You want to really piss me off? Make up bullshit and attribute it to me I said that OEM's were on AMA Pro's board, along with...
You want to really piss me off?
Make up bullshit and attribute it to me

I said that OEM's were on AMA Pro's board, along with other representatives

and I don't know what the fuck a "high voting member" is
Really, you have no stocks?
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4/9/2010 1:33pm
Go find a 150sx bud.
edited for dumbass: answer to your question: Because people buy what pros race.
Earlier you said they are sold out? So pros must race them then.
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4/9/2010 1:35pm
ProAMA is OEM's. EngineIceDave even admitted they are on the board or are high voting members.
flarider wrote:
You want to really piss me off? Make up bullshit and attribute it to me I said that OEM's were on AMA Pro's board, along with...
You want to really piss me off?
Make up bullshit and attribute it to me

I said that OEM's were on AMA Pro's board, along with other representatives

and I don't know what the fuck a "high voting member" is
Really, you have no stocks?
In AMA Pro Racing?
What stock?
Paradama had stock?

You fuckin' high?

4/9/2010 1:35pm
bogdan912 wrote:
You two stroke die hards need to get over it. Most of the OEMs don't even make new ones anymore!
The good ones do AND all but honda still make them for over seas markets....
Tiki wrote:
Interesting this comes up again today... Do they? Really? What could ever the reason be America is different? [img]http://image.motortrend.com/f/17027719+w750/112_0902_08z+2010_ford_focus_RS+front_three_quarters_view.jpg[/img] This is a Ford. Why can't I...
Interesting this comes up again today... Do they? Really? What could ever the reason be America is different?


This is a Ford. Why can't I get it here in the United States?
who drives fords these days? Wink that car probably was developed for the euro market. 250 2ts were here already they just stopped importing them that would be the main difference....
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4/9/2010 1:36pm
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Funny how butt hurt the four stroke lovers get when the 2 stroke issue comes up. Point is, DC got the 250 2 stroke approved for...
Funny how butt hurt the four stroke lovers get when the 2 stroke issue comes up. Point is, DC got the 250 2 stroke approved for the womens class. Now they flip flopped on the deal? Who exactly is the flopper this time?
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4/9/2010 1:37pm
Go find a 150sx bud.
edited for dumbass: answer to your question: Because people buy what pros race.
Tiki wrote:
Earlier you said they are sold out? So pros must race them then.
What class do pros race a 150SX?
4/9/2010 1:40pm
LOL. You are going to compare a 2003 and a 2008 in 2010?:woohoo: The 2010 450's msrp around $8K and you can pick up 09's for...
LOL. You are going to compare a 2003 and a 2008 in 2010?Woohoo

The 2010 450's msrp around $8K and you can pick up 09's for $5000 and 08's for $4400ish OTD
Racer92 wrote:
Dude, Im not trying to be adversarial about this stuff, just asking questions. So those prices you are quoting more about nobody wanting a 4-stroke? Or...
Dude, Im not trying to be adversarial about this stuff, just asking questions.

So those prices you are quoting more about nobody wanting a 4-stroke? Or what is it that is making them so cheap? If you had 2-smokes on the showroom floor, they probably would have an even harder time moving those thumpers. Right?


Sorry if my post came off that way but as I said previously I paid more for my 450 in '06 than I can get an '09 for right now. IMO those prices are about the economy sucks ass and ppl are holding onto their bikes instead of getting a new one every year. No I don't think they would have a harder time moving the thumpers if the 2T was there. They are too close in price and ppl want the edge so they buy a 250F for the 125/250 class or a 450 for the 250/450 class.
4/9/2010 1:42pm
Go find a 150sx bud.
edited for dumbass: answer to your question: Because people buy what pros race.
Tiki wrote:
Earlier you said they are sold out? So pros must race them then.
flarider wrote:
What class do pros race a 150SX?
Beats me??? I was answering his two points. First that he said he could find a 150sx. Second, why do rules need to be made to allow the 150sx.

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