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Pourcel already a class act before he went to the US and he still is a class act.
The AMA series is no better it is just different.
I am a fan of motocross and enjoy good racing. I would of loved to have seen Everts racing Carmichael in both the prime of their careers, but this never really materialised as they both raced in different series. For motocross fans, this was a real shame.
Top riders are going to go where the $$ is and the $$ is in the states, if they can get a ride...
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Roczen not only has bags of (increasing) speed, skill & maturity but he's a real character and comes across as a really genuine and personable kid. He's the real deal, and will no doubt become one of the very best around, but whether he could beat Pourcel right now is another thing.
And how far did Cairoli finnish ahead of Roczen at the MXdN??
Answer: 1:22.94 mystery solved!
Remember one thing though, most American forum members dismissed our claims about Christophe Pourcel before the start of last season.
'MXdN's often throw up the most unpredictable race results so its no legitimate measuring stick really.'
I was just trying to suggest that Hugh's theory wasn't quite a straight forward as he was making out - even if it was meant to be tongue in cheek.
Where were you when RC waxed Everts at Zolder on his 2stroke and won both motos that day. Howz about in 00' on his KX-250 at St Jean when he won the first moto and led most of the second moto, until he decided not race with a hard charging Tortelli and throw away the team win. How about in 2005, when he won both motos in Ernee.
You're right, he never won any moto's!!!!
How about RV,?? Were were you in 2007 when he and the rest of Team USA made the GP riders look like amatuers at Budds? btw...RV won both of his motos that day!!! Do I need to remind you how many seconds he won the moto's by?
Either ways, sounds like an exciting rider and doubt we'll have to wait long to see him in the States. Roczen vs Barcia sounds like the real death match! I still want to see Searle return to his 08 GP form! And Rattray... Apart from CP, the GP guys haven't really kicked ass as much as we hoped! Come on Seeeearrrle...
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But i do think Pourcel would beat Musquin
But what they show is kind of irrelevant when you look at the even bigger picture : the super-consistent but not very dominant Pourcel from Europe turned into a dominant AMA Lites 2009 outdoor rider (finished 2nd but won 13 motos -1 DNF- when Dungey was winning only 7) !
The difference ? a mix of Cairoli being a stronger opponent at the time and THE BIKE (his GP bike was not even close to a PC bike vs Cairoli's strong factory YZF)...
Now, Musquin MX2 2009 : 13 moto wins out of 27 motos raced (+ 1 DNF) show a much more dominant rider than CP ever was in the GP's...
BUT Marvin had the best bike from mid-season on and Goncalvès is no Cairoli (or Dungey, for that matter).
As far as Roczen, he IS fantastic but so far has not shown really superior to Musquin on an important race.
One year older (but still 15) he'll for sure be a bigger threat in '10 for Marvin.
Bottom line ?
We're comparing apple and oranges.
But Musquin has displayed some incredible speed last year (most notably in Lommel where he ridiculed the whole field + even the top 450's with much faster laptimes IN THE SAND) and I would'nt bet he is that far from CP, in fact I think he'd be closer from him than any current AMA Lites rider (he beat Weimer fair and square at MXDN and that does mean something). Also and unfortunately, Pourcel still has to deal with health issues (from his ugly 2007 accident) that will potentially bother him more during the two, longer outdoor motos...
We are all commenting on how smooth and clinical he is, but without having seen him ride before he came to the US, I'm left wondering if his current style is a result of the physical toll the accident had on him.
Anyway, I like your analysis. Unless 2 riders race the same series it really is apple to oranges.
Searle was riding the best he could last year, he wasn't injured, had a very similar bike to what he did in the GP's. The fact of the matter is he couldn't run with the top guys. Same with Rattray, if anything he was on better equipment last year with Mitch Payton then he was in the GP's, yet he wasn't fast enough to consistently run up front.
Very patient, calculating and smooth
As in BINGO.
One of the world's best riders in the last 20 years with both AMA and GP experience pounds a statement of fantasy into dogmeat with an undeniable statement of GP and AMA fact......and you can hear a pin drop in response.
Bing freaking O
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