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Weege, JT, and Matthes were talking about 450s being too fast for Supercross tracks.
Weege brought up the bikes being the selling point for the factories and that the displacement could not be changed without massive blow back from them.
Then he brought up restrictor plates for the bikes and how well the AMA could implement and enforce this. Then he jokingly brought up stuffing a rag into every air box. That was my favorite part.
What do you think about restricting air box flow for 450s to slow them down ?
Weege brought up the bikes being the selling point for the factories and that the displacement could not be changed without massive blow back from them.
Then he brought up restrictor plates for the bikes and how well the AMA could implement and enforce this. Then he jokingly brought up stuffing a rag into every air box. That was my favorite part.
What do you think about restricting air box flow for 450s to slow them down ?
I think only logical solution would be making 250's the premium class for supercross and bringing back the 125's as a support class
I think the simplest and easiest thing to implement would be stock bikes with suspension. No super gnarly 3 gear tranny’s, no 72 HP factory bikes, no ECUs, just bone stock bikes that any privateer can buy and race.
It would be simple to check all of that.
The Shop
Also, too slow it down they either need to go to less power overall, or make the jumps way bigger.
Ie instead if the standard 65 foot triple stretch it out 20 feet.
Now the double is smaller, and only a few will go for it on the triple.
Or just go back to 2 strokes. Nobody really likes 4 strokes anyway.
Outdoors can go back to the 450, but I think the racing would be better if it were all 250 as well.
The Factory 450s I’ve gotten to try the past couple years are insanely smooth and not the rocket ship that some would think.
Pit Row
Nothing will change until an OEM needs them to change. Alta will be the next big development on the Horizon for Pro Racing.
It wouldn't be that difficult for the AMA to say "by 2023 max cc displacement for AMA competition is XXXcc." This gives the OEMs nearly 5 years to conform. They would conform, but the AMA doesn't want to ruffle any feathers.
Look at how F1 and NASCAR work. The governing bodies dictate the platform by rules and regulations. The AMA basically says build whatever you want to build and we will figure out how to adapt the rules accordingly.
Most of you jack wagons complain on the boards about how fast and over-powered 450s are for Pro racing, but then you turn around and gloat anytime you speak with your wallet and buy a new 450.
You want 450s out of pro racing? stop buying them! if they can't sell them, they won't make them! You all think it's about the AMA and Feld, but it's not! It's all about the average joe who keeps buying.
What about just doing a complete switch on the purse for both classes. 450's would be getting the current 250 purse and 250's would be getting the current 450 purse. More privateers would be attracted to the 250 class, and so would the factory teams.
I almost killed myself last year when I stepped off a CR500 and onto another guys KXF450 because of not being ready for the inertia.
And I don't think having less inertia in a CR500 is the solution, you need a flywheel weight.
Let's not forget a few (recent) attempts to harness the laws of inertia that are no longer with us:
Maico's chain driven mainshaft used inertia to weight the front wheel
Something should be done to slow the bikes down and make them lighter.
Why we're here again is a result of some rules reflecting old technology, made redundant in one engineering cycle... We're like 5 cycles later and the rules still haven't been updated because people have their heads up their ass.
Fuck em off. Race 250s as your premier class. Amateurs and the "entry" pro class become two strokes. Cheapen the base level of the sport to encourage participation – which is 100% the biggest problem facing the sport today.
It's not hard. It just has to be done. Yes it will cost money, but this is a long, like forever long game.
Plus, the have to widen their fan base if they want to "grow the sport" and increase profits.
Take a business class, bruh.
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