Roczen and is dislike Aldon Baker... again!!

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mingham97 11/17/2016 9:44am
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Roczen is trying to get in Dungeys head. That's all it is
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Kenny Lingus 11/17/2016 9:51am
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When you think your shit doesn't stink, someone will come along and rub your nose in it.
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Michael Scott wrote:
I hope Tomac smokes them both and this crap ends... Honestly, Kenny needs to grow up and stop being a keyboard warrior... Yes he backed it...
I hope Tomac smokes them both and this crap ends... Honestly, Kenny needs to grow up and stop being a keyboard warrior... Yes he backed it up on the track so why continue the girlish social media look at me type drama? I think Tomac represents a happy medium of not being a robot and showing some emotion when things don't go his way but also doesn't point fingers and throw someone under the bus and giving respect to who beat him and his team behind him working hard every week
not gonna happen

keep hitting that Colorado kush tho bro
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Phillip_Lamb 11/17/2016 10:19am
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It would seem that Aldon Baker would only train a certain way and everyone had to do it like he said.

when in reality a trainer should adjust the regimen to the riders needs.

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Michael Scott 11/17/2016 10:20am
11/17/2016 10:20am
peelout wrote:
not gonna happen

keep hitting that Colorado kush tho bro
One can hope dammit Laughing I didn't stamp it or anything... Especially with that stage 10 clinger he's got, chick has to go
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51xc 11/17/2016 10:29am
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crusty_xx wrote:
If you like it or not, he's doing something right. He has more followers than any of his competitors
'cause kids love drama. that doesn't mean he is a fan favourite. guys like dungey, reed and stew have a very different fan base that very likely is not as much into social media because they may be older, more family oriented people.
Samsquanch Gingerbeard 11/17/2016 10:31am
11/17/2016 10:31am
People here on VitalMX talk so much shit about riders, trainers, media guys, and even the fucking Monster Girls. A top rider bags on his old trainer and ya'll throw a fucking fit. Aldon's results speak for themselves but he seems like a real dick IMO. Ken is probably still bitter that Aldon took the fun out of it for a couple years regardless of his success. We don't know what went on between them. I'm sure that Aldon saying that "some people just don't want to do the work" regarding a former client (AC?) doesn't help. Ken can talk as much shit as he wants. I like it. Besides, with a dad like Heiko do you expect him to be a perfect gentleman?
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Skidaddle 11/17/2016 11:22am
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I like hes NOT another cookie cutter.

This sport is too Memorex tape on replay.

Cue sponsor list.
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Phillip_Lamb wrote:
It would seem that Aldon Baker would only train a certain way and everyone had to do it like he said. when in reality a trainer...
It would seem that Aldon Baker would only train a certain way and everyone had to do it like he said.

when in reality a trainer should adjust the regimen to the riders needs.
Exactly
ButteryWaffles 11/17/2016 12:03pm
11/17/2016 12:03pm
He's not wrong. Look at Ken when he was with Aldon vs. how he is now. Dungey was already a champ with unbelievable fitness before Aldon, all he needed was someone to tell him to be more aggressive.
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JAFO92 11/17/2016 12:10pm
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Whether he is right or wrong, it is so nice to have a racer who isnt afraid to say what he thinks, for better or for worse.

Nothing is more boring that the; Mydunlopswerehookingupoutthereandilovedrinkingwaterfromenergydrinkcanstomakeyouthinkithatithelpedmewintherace.
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Badjak 11/17/2016 12:25pm
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mingham97 wrote:
Roczen is trying to get in Dungeys head. That's all it is
Maybe he can take some lessons from J-Law.
This is probably the best thing to do to get in Dungey head ...
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ButteryWaffles wrote:
He's not wrong. Look at Ken when he was with Aldon vs. how he is now. Dungey was already a champ with unbelievable fitness before Aldon...
He's not wrong. Look at Ken when he was with Aldon vs. how he is now. Dungey was already a champ with unbelievable fitness before Aldon, all he needed was someone to tell him to be more aggressive.
My thought exactly, name someone Baker turned In to a champion that wasn't already a champion before they went to him.
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crusty_xx 11/17/2016 12:38pm
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crusty_xx wrote:
If you like it or not, he's doing something right. He has more followers than any of his competitors
51xc wrote:
'cause kids love drama. that doesn't mean he is a fan favourite. guys like dungey, reed and stew have a very different fan base that very...
'cause kids love drama. that doesn't mean he is a fan favourite. guys like dungey, reed and stew have a very different fan base that very likely is not as much into social media because they may be older, more family oriented people.
And the ones that follow social media a lot are usually the ones that are more likely to buy Fox gear if their favorite rider wears it.
If I had a gear company, I know which rider I would give my money to.

So all the "they sould take his social media accounts away from him" is complete bs in my eyes
Dirty Points 11/17/2016 12:48pm
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ButteryWaffles wrote:
He's not wrong. Look at Ken when he was with Aldon vs. how he is now. Dungey was already a champ with unbelievable fitness before Aldon...
He's not wrong. Look at Ken when he was with Aldon vs. how he is now. Dungey was already a champ with unbelievable fitness before Aldon, all he needed was someone to tell him to be more aggressive.
I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Roczen won one 450 outdoor Championship with Baker and one 450 outdoor Championship without Baker. Seems pretty inconclusive.
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David934 11/17/2016 12:59pm
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It is self confidence. Why he can not say: KTM frame is not good.., Aldon is not good.., or Honda is fine..?
Yes, he can 
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NV825 11/17/2016 1:01pm
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ButteryWaffles wrote:
He's not wrong. Look at Ken when he was with Aldon vs. how he is now. Dungey was already a champ with unbelievable fitness before Aldon...
He's not wrong. Look at Ken when he was with Aldon vs. how he is now. Dungey was already a champ with unbelievable fitness before Aldon, all he needed was someone to tell him to be more aggressive.
Dirty Points wrote:
I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Roczen won one 450 outdoor Championship with Baker and one 450 outdoor Championship without Baker. Seems pretty inconclusive.
As someone pointed out in the other thread on this subject, Roczen started strong but faded badly at the end of the season when he was with Baker. This past season, he was incredibly strong the entire season with no fade.

To me, it sounds like KRoc is a little bitter to have spent so much money on Baker to essentially starve himself. I also think Dungey would have been just as good without ever going to Baker. If Musquin or Anderson are holding the #1 plate come Vegas or Ironman, then I will happily eat crow.

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kiwifan 11/17/2016 1:01pm
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I will say a similar thing as in the other thread, who cares!!! do you want these guys saying nothing or being open about their likes/dislikes, and it is not as though he has mocked anyone here....unless you all are Aldon himself? Honda sure as heck wont give a damn what he said.

Funny thing, most here are much more of a keyboard warrior than what Kenny is, you know...pot kettle black
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Motofinne 11/17/2016 1:03pm
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ButteryWaffles wrote:
He's not wrong. Look at Ken when he was with Aldon vs. how he is now. Dungey was already a champ with unbelievable fitness before Aldon...
He's not wrong. Look at Ken when he was with Aldon vs. how he is now. Dungey was already a champ with unbelievable fitness before Aldon, all he needed was someone to tell him to be more aggressive.
Dirty Points wrote:
I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Roczen won one 450 outdoor Championship with Baker and one 450 outdoor Championship without Baker. Seems pretty inconclusive.
He didn't like the Baker program, that is fine. It's not suited for everyone.

The big mistake was going from KTM to RCH. One year went to shit because of that. Fortunately Roczen is only 23 years old. Lots of time to make it up at Honda.

He only has one problem. Dungey has kicked his ass 2 years in a row.
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Plugga 11/17/2016 1:05pm
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Forty wrote:
When he comes out his demeanor will change. He's frustrated.
....it worked for Ian Thorpe.
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gt80rider 11/17/2016 1:11pm
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Glad to see someone make the off season interesting.. I hope k-roc keeps slingn it...
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shanexsan 11/17/2016 1:12pm
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Michael Scott wrote:
I hope Tomac smokes them both and this crap ends... Honestly, Kenny needs to grow up and stop being a keyboard warrior... Yes he backed it...
I hope Tomac smokes them both and this crap ends... Honestly, Kenny needs to grow up and stop being a keyboard warrior... Yes he backed it up on the track so why continue the girlish social media look at me type drama? I think Tomac represents a happy medium of not being a robot and showing some emotion when things don't go his way but also doesn't point fingers and throw someone under the bus and giving respect to who beat him and his team behind him working hard every week
peelout wrote:
not gonna happen

keep hitting that Colorado kush tho bro
I wonder how much better Tomac will b at supercross with a year of testing the kawi under his belt. MEC he looked like he had roczens speed in that second moto before roczen somersaulted off his bike. If starts are better I wouldn't count tomac out so fast.
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JAFO92 11/17/2016 1:16pm
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gt80rider wrote:
Glad to see someone make the off season interesting.. I hope k-roc keeps slingn it...
^ This
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kiwifan 11/17/2016 2:08pm
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gt80rider wrote:
Glad to see someone make the off season interesting.. I hope k-roc keeps slingn it...
hell yeah !!!!!!
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Forty 11/17/2016 2:23pm
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Forty wrote:
When he comes out his demeanor will change. He's frustrated.
Plugga wrote:
....it worked for Ian Thorpe.
Yes sir.
ButteryWaffles 11/17/2016 2:54pm
11/17/2016 2:54pm
ButteryWaffles wrote:
He's not wrong. Look at Ken when he was with Aldon vs. how he is now. Dungey was already a champ with unbelievable fitness before Aldon...
He's not wrong. Look at Ken when he was with Aldon vs. how he is now. Dungey was already a champ with unbelievable fitness before Aldon, all he needed was someone to tell him to be more aggressive.
Dirty Points wrote:
I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Roczen won one 450 outdoor Championship with Baker and one 450 outdoor Championship without Baker. Seems pretty inconclusive.
NV825 wrote:
As someone pointed out in the other thread on this subject, Roczen started strong but faded badly at the end of the season when he was...
As someone pointed out in the other thread on this subject, Roczen started strong but faded badly at the end of the season when he was with Baker. This past season, he was incredibly strong the entire season with no fade.

To me, it sounds like KRoc is a little bitter to have spent so much money on Baker to essentially starve himself. I also think Dungey would have been just as good without ever going to Baker. If Musquin or Anderson are holding the #1 plate come Vegas or Ironman, then I will happily eat crow.
Exactly what I was getting at. Interested to see if AC can put together a solid season on a new program. Roczen is an absolute machine right now, so his trainer must have a good handle on what works for his clients.
the_inside_line 11/17/2016 4:43pm
11/17/2016 4:43pm
Krazyk2774 wrote:
I'm starting to really dislike Roczen and his massive ego! He is going to learn humility the hard way when he takes that big fall that...
I'm starting to really dislike Roczen and his massive ego! He is going to learn humility the hard way when he takes that big fall that comes for everyone sooner or later! Your good at riding a dirtbike Kenny, that's cool but it doesn't give you the right to act like an arrogant prick! People will remember that, and you won't get much sympathy when you are down on your luck in the future.
He's being honest bro, better than the robots that are on the podiums every weekend
the_inside_line 11/17/2016 4:44pm
11/17/2016 4:44pm
ButteryWaffles wrote:
He's not wrong. Look at Ken when he was with Aldon vs. how he is now. Dungey was already a champ with unbelievable fitness before Aldon...
He's not wrong. Look at Ken when he was with Aldon vs. how he is now. Dungey was already a champ with unbelievable fitness before Aldon, all he needed was someone to tell him to be more aggressive.
Dirty Points wrote:
I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Roczen won one 450 outdoor Championship with Baker and one 450 outdoor Championship without Baker. Seems pretty inconclusive.
Motofinne wrote:
He didn't like the Baker program, that is fine. It's not suited for everyone. The big mistake was going from KTM to RCH. One year went...
He didn't like the Baker program, that is fine. It's not suited for everyone.

The big mistake was going from KTM to RCH. One year went to shit because of that. Fortunately Roczen is only 23 years old. Lots of time to make it up at Honda.

He only has one problem. Dungey has kicked his ass 2 years in a row.
Dungey will be solid as but it's not going to be as easy as the last few seasons

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