To buy, or not to buy. I need opinions

OldnBroken
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Edited Date/Time 3/27/2018 11:06am
Hello all,

Hope this deoesnt end up in the dumbgeon, but I thought I would appeal to fellow riders for an opinion. I have been off the bike now for about four years, and, living in Canada, haven't been able to watch supercross for a few of those. I've gotten into other hobbies such as road cycling, running, and triathlon, so it's not like I've been sitting around. The bug has got me a bit, after watching this stellar season of supercross, and I am considering buying a left over 17 450 SXF. I rode one at a demo day and loved it, so my mind is mostly made up that this would be the bike if I buy one. My question is this: what are your opinions on how much riding justifies owning a brand new bike? I don't know how often I will ride it, but I want one all the same ?. I know this is a personal decision, but I can afford it to buy it, and life is short, right? But it's still 10,000 bucks! And I am not concerned with buying a 450 - I had one for years prior to my break, and I love them. What would you do???
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yz133rider
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3/15/2018 6:29am
Send it. Leftover should be a good price compared to current year right? I bought a left over 350 husky. Wont ever go back.
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3/15/2018 6:32am
It sounds to me like you have already made your mind up!, go for it and enjoy what you can afford while you can. Wink
OldnBroken
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3/15/2018 6:35am
Haha thanks! They want 9424$ for it CDN. I have looked around and this seems decent, even compared to US dealers. I probably just need a nudge here lol. I'm gun shy!
yz133rider
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3/15/2018 6:42am
If youve ridden it and know how good the motor is, clutch, brakes etc going back to another brand they feel vintage. For me just the brakes alone are worth the extra compared to other brands

The motors are silky smooth built with high end internals, suspension works great out of the box for a wide range of speed and skill. I can't say enough good things Honestly.

I broke a brake pedal spring in 30 hrs of riding its a known issue pick up a fast replacement spring or a few oems and keep in the tool box.

The air box and air filter set up is by far better. Actually sits down into its enclosure and clips in. Much more effective than just sitting agaisnt the air box like the jap bikes.

Lots of great features that truly are a step forward.

Steel braidied brake lines clutch line. Frame guards that attempt to protect foot peg springs and brake resovoir. Enough rambling but tons of small details nobody else gives you

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flopper12
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3/15/2018 6:44am
Who cares about a 450, just ride that ass in your profile pic. GODDAMN!
agn5009
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3/15/2018 6:48am
Look around for a 2017 leftover and save a bunch of money. Or buy a new one! Look on cycletrader.com and see what bikes are available within a preferred distance and at what prices.
CarlinoJoeVideo
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3/15/2018 6:51am
It’s not about how much riding justifies a new bike, it’s if you can afford it. If you can, go for it. Have fun, you only live once!
Motofinne
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3/15/2018 6:53am Edited Date/Time 3/15/2018 6:55am
I have 56 hours on my 2017 SXF 450 and i haven't had any issues with it. Great bike! But that can be said for all of the current bikes, they are all good in their own ways. Some are more powerful(that can be good or bad depending on your riding style and experience), some are more stable but doesn't corner as good in tight corners etc. They are all different but none of them are bad!

Like Carlino mentioned. Go for it if you can afford it! A brand new bike will be more fun the few times you ride than an old one that you don't know the history of.

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3/15/2018 6:53am Edited Date/Time 3/15/2018 6:54am
Save the $10,000. Travel down to Austin twice a year and you can ride my 450 twice a year for free!
3/15/2018 6:59am
I took a 10yr break and instantly regretting buying a 17 ktm 450. 2wks later I bought a 17 ktm 350. Absolute best motor hands down imo. However I couldn’t get used to the euro ergonomics. Ended up with an 18 crf250.

My point is, ride as many as you can to make sure you feel comfortable with the power and egronomics. Don’t let ego or a particular brand’s kool-aid get in the way of YOUR decision and what’s best for YOU.
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3/15/2018 7:06am
I'm not sure why you thought this might end up in the dumbgeon, it's a legit question. As someone once said to me "I'm not here for a long time, I'm here for a good time". Do it!
Bruce372
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3/15/2018 7:12am
If you enjoy riding, get the new bike since you don't need to inherit potential problems of a used bike, especially if you can afford a new one.

As for the 450, they are so easy to ride, I find it hard to understand why people think they are too much.
OldnBroken
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3/15/2018 7:17am
Thanks for the replies! Flopper12: dat ass courtesy of Diana dalghren. It is ?. I made a gif of the video this picture is from, and it was awesome. As far as the bike goes,we had a demo day at our local track and I rode all of the brands that day. I hadn't been on the track in three years, and I felt comfortable almost instantly on the KTM. I had KXs prior to my break, and loved them, but when I rode the brand new one that day it sure did feel like a Rattly, in polished bike compared to the KtM. I said to myself that day, if I ever buy new again, it would be a KTM. I should have known you guys would all say buy it!! Hahaha where are the counterpoints? Lol
nytsmaC
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3/15/2018 7:24am
Is that price taxes in?

It’s not what you’re asking for, but I’ll throw this out there, if the 10 grand is giving you a bit of anxiety I’ll sell you my brand new never ridden 15 RMZ450 for 6200, no taxes. It appears we live in the same town.

Either way, I vote get a bike. You don’t have to ride it a ton to justify it.
TJMX947
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3/15/2018 7:30am
I have a brand new KTM 350. If I put 20 hours on her this year that will be a good year. Its my bike, hasn't been neglected, I know it will start and run perfectly every time I go out. You only live once and you can't take the $ with you to the grave.
Team Ideal
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3/15/2018 7:34am
I bought a new 18 Honda 450 last fall. I've probably rode it 6 or 7 times since. just tore my MCL pretty good, probably be awhile before I'm back on it but I don't care. buy it bro
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I bought my 14 yz450 in July of 2013 brand new. 4 1/2 years later it only has 37.52 hours. I wanted a new bike and could afford it at the time. Didn't want to buy used and have a head ache wishing I had bought a new bike instead. If you have the money and want a new bike, DO IT!! Just make damn sure it's the bike you want.

I expect to see a "spoke with my wallet" post from you soon Wink
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3/15/2018 7:50am
If you've already ran the numbers and you can afford it, pull the trigger. You only live once.
brocster
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3/15/2018 8:07am
Nothing beats the feel and smell of a freshie...
3/15/2018 8:41am
25 hours on my '16. Sucks but I'll hopefully put another 25 on this year and sell it. Nothing beats a new bike.
mx617
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3/15/2018 8:47am
How much do you expect to ride? Maybe look at it as $/hr of riding. You need a bikes for sure, but say you keep it 5 years and ride 20 hrs a year, that's $100/hr of riding. Just for the bike, no fuel or maintenance. Buy used and it's download to $50/hr.

Also, whats the alternative? Pretty hard to find rentals I'd think.
OldnBroken
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3/15/2018 8:57am
Thanks for the offer on the RMZ450 nytsmaC; I'm pretty certain if I buy it's going to be a KTM. I've never had one, and I was smitten with the one I rode after my 10 minutes with it were up. The hydraulic clutch, e-start, and suspension all felt awesome. I had not ridden a MX track in like 3 years, and I was jumping stuff on the first lap. I did ride a 350 right after, which was quite comfortable but I like the 450cc; love the power delivery. Well, I'm gonna see how I feel when the weekend rolls around. I won't have time to get to the dealership before then. But I think I know what is going to happen...lol
kb228
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3/15/2018 9:00am
I would get a low hour used one. No sense in buying brand new. You could save $4000 on a used one and it will be the same bike.
Falcon
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3/15/2018 9:01am
If you have the disposable income to afford it, then that's what your money is for. Buy the thing, go ride and don't think twice.
Kyle978
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3/15/2018 9:04am
Do it, don't think twice. Great choice for a bike, too.
jtiger12
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3/15/2018 9:14am
I went through this same torturous decision for the last 2 seasons. I turn 42 this year, and figure I only have about 4-6 "good" years left in me, so I pulled the trigger finally. Bought a leftover 17 crf450. Being a bigger guy, I need to upgrade certain things and get suspension revalved no matter what. Even with an FC revalve, magura clutch, and assorted parts and bars, I am still (in cash) $1200 below the msrp of an 18. The day I cannot kick over a 450, is the day I sell my shit and buy a 911 or a boat.
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3/15/2018 10:23am
if you can afford it buy new, replace it when it needs, even if that takes 5 years,

you can get good deals second hand, but their is nothing like riding a brand new bike for the first time,
nytsmaC
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3/15/2018 10:48am
OldnBroken wrote:
Thanks for the offer on the RMZ450 nytsmaC; I'm pretty certain if I buy it's going to be a KTM. I've never had one, and I...
Thanks for the offer on the RMZ450 nytsmaC; I'm pretty certain if I buy it's going to be a KTM. I've never had one, and I was smitten with the one I rode after my 10 minutes with it were up. The hydraulic clutch, e-start, and suspension all felt awesome. I had not ridden a MX track in like 3 years, and I was jumping stuff on the first lap. I did ride a 350 right after, which was quite comfortable but I like the 450cc; love the power delivery. Well, I'm gonna see how I feel when the weekend rolls around. I won't have time to get to the dealership before then. But I think I know what is going to happen...lol
No problem! Spring is here, I might go ride at Popkum on Sunday, weather permitting. You’re welcome to join,l and break in that new Katiom. I’m in the same boat as you, bought a new TM last spring and put a whopping 3.2 hours on it so far, lol.
3/15/2018 11:03am
I took a 10yr break and instantly regretting buying a 17 ktm 450. 2wks later I bought a 17 ktm 350. Absolute best motor hands down...
I took a 10yr break and instantly regretting buying a 17 ktm 450. 2wks later I bought a 17 ktm 350. Absolute best motor hands down imo. However I couldn’t get used to the euro ergonomics. Ended up with an 18 crf250.

My point is, ride as many as you can to make sure you feel comfortable with the power and egronomics. Don’t let ego or a particular brand’s kool-aid get in the way of YOUR decision and what’s best for YOU.
Was off the bike for several years and also ended up on an 18 crf250r. Best bike I have ever ridden and handles like a fighter jet on the trail. Love it!

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