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PJRAUS PJRAUS
7/11/2017 4:19 AM

Well,I'm planning to get a new YZ 250 two stroke for next year...it will come with the GYTR pipe and muffler ( or could even be HGS ,or so I heard from a dealer ) in the race package deal that they do...
Will put on a V force reed block too.
Thought I would send the cylinder and head to pro circuit for the full job...and they always say to run on VP C12 after they do the head mods.
I did this with a KX 125 years ago and it flew! Back then you could still buy Shell RF 100 just about anywhere ,so I used that and it ran great...real holshot weapon.
Since the Nanny state banned the sale of leaded fuels to the public..or so I believed, it was a surprise to see C12 was available here ...beauty!
Rang up the importer after looking at the web site..they have a dealer near where I love so no hassle picking up the gas...

Asked about price per 20 litre drum, thinking it would be pricey ,but what the hell you know?
Ol mate looked up the price annnnnnnnd......wait for it........

$200 Australian for a 20 litre drum ,plus freight o their dealer....

As they say.....bang goes that idea!

2020 YZ450F
2006 YZ125
2013 YZ 250F special edition
2017 YZ 250
2015 YZ 250f soecial edition
2019 KTM 85 big wheel

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TriRacer27 TriRacer27
7/11/2017 5:39 AM

Just to translate for my fellow Americans, that's about $150 for a 5 gal drum.


Yeah, I would say that's pricey.

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Tryhard Tryhard
7/11/2017 5:48 AM

I want to say 5 gallons of c12 here in the states to be specific virginia . it was 68 bucks for 5 gallons . which is still pricey to me ! but jesus christ 150 bucks ...

I would start looking for other brands... call speed shops , call drag strips ... they will know where the good priced fuel is!

2018 crf 250r

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jordz jordz
7/11/2017 5:49 AM
PJRAUS wrote:

Well,I'm planning to get a ...more

Im getting 100ll avgas from my local airport in central victoria no worries mate. wink

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IWreckALot IWreckALot
7/11/2017 5:55 AM
PJRAUS wrote:

Well,I'm planning to get a ...more

jordz wrote:

Im getting 100ll avgas ...more

100LL is where it's at. $4~ a gallon here and 2 strokes love it.

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PJRAUS PJRAUS
7/11/2017 5:57 AM
jordz wrote:

Im getting 100ll avgas ...more

I heard that AV gas has changed lately and isn't as good as it was....doesn't sound right to me though...you can't mess around with aeroplane fuel...it's a long way down if the motor blows!

I was reading on a site here for a company that supplies race tracks ( car race tracks ) with their bowser fuel...they have a 100 octane leaded fuel that is specd for the classic v 8's...that as of 2019 the government is going to ban the supply of all leaded fuel to motor racing.....
The Nanny's strike again!

2020 YZ450F
2006 YZ125
2013 YZ 250F special edition
2017 YZ 250
2015 YZ 250f soecial edition
2019 KTM 85 big wheel

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pete24 pete24
7/11/2017 6:19 AM

c12 here is 89 buks a 5 gal

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agn5009 agn5009
7/11/2017 6:39 AM
PJRAUS wrote:

Well,I'm planning to get a ...more

jordz wrote:

Im getting 100ll avgas ...more

IWreckALot wrote:

100LL is where it's at. ...more

That's what I've been running too. Runs great.

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kkawboy14 kkawboy14
7/11/2017 6:56 AM

Buy your own lead additive

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Bramlett321 Bramlett321
7/11/2017 7:21 AM
PJRAUS wrote:

Well,I'm planning to get a ...more

jordz wrote:

Im getting 100ll avgas ...more

IWreckALot wrote:

100LL is where it's at. ...more

Man I've been running the ll100 in a '16 300XC and it runs freaking amazing. Long term I have no history on this fuel so I hope everything continues to flow well. It is definitely cheap at $4.00 a gallon.

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c0ncEpT c0ncEpT
7/11/2017 7:56 AM

I've been mixing Sunoco Supreme 50/50 with 93 pump gas in my Husky 125. Bike seems to really like it and its cheaper than VP.

Race Bike: 2018 KTM 350SXF

Other Bikes: 1985 CR80R, 1990 CR250R, 1998 PW80, Specialized Fuse Comp 29.

Sold: 2016 YZ250F, 2012 CRF250R

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smashingpumpkins167 smashingpumpkins167
7/11/2017 7:58 AM

I can get the VP 110 octane out here for $77 for 5 gallons.

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bvm111 bvm111
7/11/2017 8:47 AM

I would give Sunoco a hard look, if it is available down there.

I have been running the GTX280 98 Octane unleaded in my 450 and I will try their 112 octane in my 250 as soon as I burn through my last pale of C12... the spec sheet is really close! I have a fully modified cylinder and head from Tom Morgan so I am hoping to have good results!

C12 here in Vegas is 98 dollars for 5 gallons and the Sunoco will work out to be about half of that!!!

Never try to argue with idiots; they will only bring you down to their level.....and being more experienced, they will beat you at their own game!

2020.5 KTM 450 SXF FE
2006 KX250

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jeffro503 jeffro503
7/11/2017 8:54 AM
smashingpumpkins167 wrote:

I can get the VP 110 ...more

That's about how much it costs here. Im lucky to have one of my best friends as a VP dealer , and made the switch over to using VP just a couple months ago. Helps out a lot on the price.

$150.00 USD for C12?.....good gawd I wouldn't buy it either.

And there goes Jeffro. One of God's own prototypes. A super high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

Pimpin' Ho's , Rollin' fatty's......drinkin' beers , beers , beers!! ~ Ja

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BobPA BobPA
7/11/2017 9:10 AM

VP 110 right at the pump here for 9.75/gallon

Tomac and/or Anderson for 2020.....

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seth505 seth505
7/11/2017 10:03 AM

Hot damn, I pay $75 US for 5gal of C12 here

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eric513anderson eric513anderson
7/11/2017 10:12 AM

I got some about 3 weeks ago. I always keep an extra pail or two in the garage. I can get it for $80 from a local performance shop Photo

2011 Yamaha YZ 250 -MX
1996 Yamaha Banshee 350 -Trails
1982 Chevy S10
2005 Pontiac GTO -451rwhp

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josh8811 josh8811
7/11/2017 10:13 AM

You guys thinking you need special C12 gas is comedy to me!! Buy a jet kit bro..

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scott_nz scott_nz
7/11/2017 10:20 AM

its about the same price here, i have been looking for a while and no other companies seem to import good race gas,

the Elf oils distributor used to bring in some good race fuel in, but stopped about 5 years ago

we can still get Av Gas here pretty easy, but you dont get much gains in four strokes with it,

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seth505 seth505
7/11/2017 10:30 AM
josh8811 wrote:

You guys thinking you need ...more

How good is a jet kit if you get a crappy batch of fuel at a pump?

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jeffro503 jeffro503
7/11/2017 10:36 AM
josh8811 wrote:

You guys thinking you need ...more

seth505 wrote:

How good is a jet kit if ...more

Exactly. What the heck does jetting your bike correctly , have anything to do with burning good or crappy fuel?

Jetting correct + good fuel = win / win....right? At least that's been my experience.

And there goes Jeffro. One of God's own prototypes. A super high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

Pimpin' Ho's , Rollin' fatty's......drinkin' beers , beers , beers!! ~ Ja

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bvm111 bvm111
7/11/2017 10:40 AM
josh8811 wrote:

You guys thinking you need ...more

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Never try to argue with idiots; they will only bring you down to their level.....and being more experienced, they will beat you at their own game!

2020.5 KTM 450 SXF FE
2006 KX250

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IWreckALot IWreckALot
7/11/2017 12:36 PM
jordz wrote:

Im getting 100ll avgas ...more

IWreckALot wrote:

100LL is where it's at. ...more

Bramlett321 wrote:

Man I've been running the ...more

If it helps you any, I've ran 100LL for 3 years now in the same bike and I've only changed the top end once about 6 months ago.

The side benefit is my buddies all like to ride behind me to smell the burning lead and Bel Ray Synthetic oil and I get to think I'm faster than they are.

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coastlinecascot coastlinecascot
7/11/2017 1:13 PM

Keep in mind with 100ll av is that it must be tested daily by the airport for octane levels. Thats what my local airport worker told me. I guess it must be a liability thing. I always used it in my 2 stroke. 4.20 a gallon. Cant beat it

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benchracermx benchracermx
7/11/2017 1:14 PM

To the guys running av gas .. what jetting changes do u make if any?? Think av got standard jetting in my 93 cr 250.. think it's 55 and 175.. what changes would u suggest?.. just got 20 litres of it and not used the bike this year. Cheers

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Ransom_Bennett Ransom_Bennett
7/11/2017 1:22 PM

Get T2 for your two stroke

Premixed race gas at 40:1

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jordz jordz
7/11/2017 4:55 PM

So 100LL avgas is decent in the two bangers? Just finished rebuilding my yz last night and might give it a go.

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RPM68 RPM68
7/11/2017 5:01 PM
seth505 wrote:

Hot damn, I pay $75 US for ...more

Same here in Texas, retail at least



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bd bd
7/11/2017 5:10 PM
bvm111 wrote:

I would give Sunoco a hard ...more

I was buying C12 from Carter (in Las Vegas) for about $89.99 (5 gallons).

bd

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500 Mike 500 Mike
7/11/2017 5:45 PM
josh8811 wrote:

You guys thinking you need ...more

seth505 wrote:

How good is a jet kit if ...more

jeffro503 wrote:

Exactly. What the heck ...more

It's all about throttle response and how crisp the bike runs, even if the jetting is spot on. If you can afford the race gas it sure is worth it. I ran 50/50 in my 06 CR250R and it ran great.

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