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Racer111 Racer111
10/9/2019 4:54 PM
crusty_xx wrote:

To the left...
To bring it ...more

Meister wrote:

You're a disgrace to your ...more

crusty_xx wrote:

ok Meister

You lost the argument before and you’re losing it now. It’s a WHIP. Meaning you are whipping the rear of the bike around. The rear of the bike in the OP’s pic is whipping the ass of the bike to the RIGHT. Anyone who says it’s to the left is a complete tool.

“Let the Good Times Roll”

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jeffro503 jeffro503
10/9/2019 5:40 PM
crusty_xx wrote:

To the left...
To bring it ...more

That would be a big no. He's whipping " the bike " to the left.

When did anyone ever say " I'm whipping my body " a certain way? The direction of the whip , soley goes to where the bike is headed.

And there goes Jeffro. One of God's own prototypes. A super high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.

Pimpin' Ho's , Rollin' fatty's......drinkin' beers , beers , beers!! ~ Ja

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crusty_xx crusty_xx
10/9/2019 5:43 PM
Meister wrote:

You're a disgrace to your ...more

crusty_xx wrote:

ok Meister

Racer111 wrote:

You lost the argument ...more

Ok if you say so. You're a Racer so you must know I guess

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HD1200 HD1200
10/9/2019 5:51 PM
fatpurplepanda wrote:

We aren't evaluating the ...more

If he was still on the ground he could only be turning to the left so why is it that when he is in the air he is turning to the right? Engineer or not, let is left.

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Zacka 161 Zacka 161
10/9/2019 5:55 PM

Literally you are turning the bike left. You don’t talk about speed way riders turning the direction of their rear wheel or whatever.


Compare it to a straight jump. The bike is rotated left. Obviously flat as well but left, the bike if it was upright is now fallen over to the left side. Thee difference between a turn up, turn down and regular whip is the position of the fulcrum in two axis.

But yeah it’s a whip left - is he ‘whipping it to the left’ or something, to me that just weird and makes it sound like you jump straight whip your but and the bike to one side and wahla a whip to the right. A whip is more influences by the direction no leaning setup on the ramp which is all left.

Unless you are doing butt whips only this is left

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Mr. Afterbar Mr. Afterbar
10/9/2019 6:05 PM
Zacka 161 wrote:

Literally you are turning ...more

The question was not which way is the rider turning on the face of the jump. The question is which way is the bike being whipped. It's pretty simple. It's about weight positioning. You can go perfectly straight off a jump and whip the bike out in either direction with no turning involved. Back end of the bike goes to the right from the center point. That's considered whipping it to the right. Pretty basic stuff yet somehow 220 people at this point can't grasp the concept.

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ctbale ctbale
10/9/2019 6:12 PM
Torco1 wrote:

You guys brought this up ...more

Peyronie's ??? I know a girl who can fix that. Well that what she claims on her facebook page anyways

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Zacka 161 Zacka 161
10/9/2019 6:41 PM
Zacka 161 wrote:

Literally you are turning ...more

Mr. Afterbar wrote:

The question was not which ...more

The wording was

‘He is whipping to the... right/left’

Based on that specific wording it’s even more clear. He is whipping to the left, leaning to the left, the bike is turning to left, the bike is being whipped in every sense to the left.

Again a unless you jump straight and butt whip your ass to the right like ddavis then this is the left in ever sense.

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Jeremy Macbeth Jeremy Macbeth
10/9/2019 6:43 PM

The rear wheel is not independent of the main chassis. The entire bike is being pitched left from its original centerpoint. You may see a rear wheel being “whipped” to the right but what you are actually seeing is a motorcycle being pitched to the left.

The rear wheel would not be in the position it is in unless the rider used his own mass to reposition the bike to the “left.”

Therefore, the final and correct answer is: left

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slipdog slipdog
10/9/2019 7:27 PM

Whipping it to the right

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seth505 seth505
10/9/2019 9:26 PM

Allow me to introduce exhibit D. A lot of people will remember Barcia "whipping it dangerously in Roczens face". Many got upset over this stunt. This stunt where Roczen was to Barcias left and where he whipped it to the LEFT. Notice that Barcia is even looking to the left (nice flex) to notice his bike whipped out to the left.

I REST MY CASE. No further questions your honor.

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gnarwhip gnarwhip
10/9/2019 9:43 PM
Falcon wrote:

Hmmmm. This one depends on ...more

Exactly. If you lean to the left, it’s left. If you lean to the right it’s right. Been racing in SoCal since i was five.

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-MAVERICK- -MAVERICK-
10/9/2019 10:43 PM

The best example I could come up with is the following.

If a car driver steers left to drift around a right hand corner, which way is the car going? Despite having his steering wheel turned to the left, the car is following its designated course to the right.

In this case the drift is the equivalent of the whip.



OP's pic is whipping to the right.

It's called best whip, not best turn. Two different maneuvers. A whip frees the back end of the bike. The back end in that pic is swiveling to the right.

"Sorry Goose, but it's time to buzz the tower."

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Alex.434 Alex.434
10/9/2019 11:04 PM

Based on this thread, bunch of you guys are probably Flat Earthers.

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Zacka 161 Zacka 161
10/10/2019 12:11 AM
seth505 wrote:

Allow me to introduce ...more

*cross jumping to the left while whipping to the right

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Gordon Liddy Gordon Liddy
10/10/2019 4:30 AM

The rear tire is to the right of the centerline of the bike, therefore he is whipping it to the right.

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cody41 cody41
10/10/2019 4:45 AM

This is to the right. You are throwing the rear of the bike to the right. This is 100% about the rear end of the bike, not the front or anything else. This thread sounds like a bunch of confused souls trying to figure out what gender they are...

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crusty_xx crusty_xx
10/10/2019 5:22 AM
seth505 wrote:

Allow me to introduce ...more

No, this is a scrub. We learned in this thread that a scrub is entirely different. He's scrubbing to the right.
If you had the exact same picture but he would have started it as a whip rather than a scrub, then it would be a whip to the left. Obvious, isn't it? dizzy

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gnarwhip gnarwhip
10/10/2019 5:28 AM

All the kooks that say it’s to the right have never raced or ridden hills in southern California, or skate/snowboarded for that matter. If you see a hip in a snowboard park, and it’s a left hip, you lean to the left and land going left.

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Zacka 161 Zacka 161
10/10/2019 5:41 AM
Gordon Liddy wrote:

The rear tire is to the ...more

But unless the front of the bike doesn’t move then the opposite applies. If it’s a straight jump and you use your butt to push the back of the back of the bike to one side like a DDavis butt whip then yes you are correct.

But every part of the bike movement, direction change, body movement and momentum is a turning left therefore it is whipping to the left. Anyone that think otherwise has clearly never complete a ‘whip’

Especially considering the picture looks like the majority of the bike movement is not in the turning but in the leaning of the bike. Saying this is a whip to the right is like saying a bike that fell off a stand and broke a clutch, fell to the right and somehow just ended on the left side.

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Zacka 161 Zacka 161
10/10/2019 5:46 AM
Jeremy Macbeth wrote:

The rear wheel is not ...more

Exactly!

But please I would love if GuyB or someone could do a video compilation of rider answers at monster cup. Print the picture take it around and get video answer.

I would put money on riders that actually do whips, especially this racing style whip, would agree that is clearly to the left.

When you start doing turn up and then down and backward whips it can get tricky but this is very very straightforward.

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seth505 seth505
10/10/2019 6:46 AM
gnarwhip wrote:

All the kooks that say it’ ...more

I think you missed the post where one of the best whippers in the world agreed with us that are saying the OP pic is whipping to the right. You can hit a left hip and still whip it to the right.

I'd be willing to bet if we took a poll from all the pro riders all of us know that it would teeter on 100% "whipping to right" answers.

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davis224 davis224
10/10/2019 6:55 AM
Jeremy Macbeth wrote:

The rear wheel is not ...more

Yes, you're applying force to the left and turning left, to whip the bike to the right. It is blowing my mind how many people are saying left. You just said you see the rear wheel being whipped to the right, nothing else matters after that.

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Sweetd31 Sweetd31
10/10/2019 9:33 AM
Jeremy Macbeth wrote:

Well, technically ...more

I’m an anatomist, with respect to anatomical position, the rider commits in the direction of his Left-hand

As well as the direction of the bike, which consequently will land further to the left than if he’d gone off straight.

No different than when I whip it into the left lane on the highway, directionally, I end up in the left lane, even though the rear of my car is facing right.

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Jbulz Jbulz
10/10/2019 9:34 AM

My mind is a little blown here - I've been riding and watching moto my whole life. This is the first time I've ever heard anyone describe the bike leaning to the left as whipping to the right!

Looks like the votes are about 2/3 to the right, 1/3 to the left. Wonder if its a regional thing?

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slipdog slipdog
10/10/2019 9:38 AM
gnarwhip wrote:

All the kooks that say it’ ...more

I'm dead, bro...

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AH387 AH387
10/10/2019 9:43 AM
Jbulz wrote:

My mind is a little blown ...more

Same. I think it is more of a semantics thing though. The people claiming it is left (myself included) are basing it on the bike leaning left and the whole motion going left. And the rear happens to follow, but flicks right in the process. So the people saying right are focusing more on the action of the back of the bike, which is usually used to determine how far the bike is 'whipped'. So I see that argument too. But, for me the funny part is how a scrub going left is ok to be called "left" but if it is then classified as a 'whip' (which is sometimes a gray area anyways) then it then considered "right". That just sounds completely silly. But it is what it is.

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Jbulz Jbulz
10/10/2019 9:53 AM
Jbulz wrote:

My mind is a little blown ...more

AH387 wrote:

Same. I think it is more ...more

Yeah maybe it's a frame of reference focusing on the action of the rear wheel. I'm with you - this is to the left. I asked a few other riding buddies and got the same answer, so I'm still going to keep calling it how I always have... made it almost 30 years without ever getting called out on it haha.

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Thisusernameisavailable Thisusernameisavailable
10/10/2019 9:58 AM

I say LEFT.

If a rider steers left with the bars, leans left with his body, puts on the power and the rear wheel slides to the right, would you say he's turning right??

Of course you wouldn't you numbskulls!

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cody41 cody41
10/10/2019 10:26 AM

My assumption is that 100% of the people who are saying left do not know how to scrub or whip.

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