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That would cure the refueling woes and still be more efficient.
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People seem to forget that this truck is still in concept/pre-production stage. This iteration may be pretty far away from meeting NHTSA safety standards, so I expect that the appearance will change somewhat when they add mirrors and other government mandated stuff. Personally, I can't wait to see one in person in a couple years. It would look cool in brushed/black stainless.
Doesn't get paid miles, gas or for his time.
So now I’m back to square one. IS THIS THING REAL?!?!?
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Battery technology has not progressed enough yet.
For comparison, the Ford Raptor does 0-60 in 5.7 seconds, has a tow rating of only 6000lbs, and STARTS at 52K, but is easily a 70-80K truck with the options you'd want.
The numbers don't lie. The CyberTruck outperforms the coveted Ford F150 Raptor while also towing like a F350 Turbo Diesel, and doing so at the cost less than America's best selling vehicle, the Ford F150.
Maybe my situation here in southern California is different than yours. We have multiple tracks within 50 miles, and my job (if go into the office) is 50 miles away. So doing over 100 miles of driving in 1 day is pretty rare. If i'm doing longer trips than that, i'll likely want to stop and take a 30 minute break anyway. So i'd plan to stop at a supercharger for 30 minutes or so each way to fast charge.
Compare the 0-60 and towing to a basic XLT 4x4 with the 3.5 TT V6. Bet the F150 stays close running to 60, and can tow more. With a 36 gallon tank itll go further with a trailer too.
The F350 can tow well over 30,000lbs. 3x what the Tesla can. The tesla dont tow like a F350. Hell can you even put a gooseneck in the Tesla with it's silly ass tall bedsides and unibody construction? Can the rear suspension handle the 20% tongue weight?
The base F150 sells for $19,000 around here. 30k gets you a decent looking and performing truck. Idk how you can say the Tesla is cheaper.
Tesla price is on par with BMW, Mercedes and other European cars and somehow believe it or not those european car companies remain in business.... They don't sell as many as the the crappy Chevy and Chrysler small SUVs but they are viable car companies, just like Tesla is. And their sales numbers over the last 12 months worldwide are about on par with US BMW sales....
Do you know what the average daily driving usage is for an american? Hint it's just slightly less than the 250 Mile range of the bottom of the range Tesla believe it or not. So yeah they are no longer a novelty, Heres a graph showing the number of sales each quarter from 2015. Its crazy I know but sales seem to be going UP.... I guess the novelty hasnt worn off yet, and maybe the ability to charge at home overnight without having to stop in a gas station to fill up is more convenient... and the time and money saving of this is not outweighed by the very rare time you drive continuously more than 300 Miles and have to stop for an hour.
Apologies in advance for bringing number to a discussion about your feelings
The base F150 is completely outclassed by the cybertruck so why even go there... because it serves your narrative.
The cost is on par with a raptor so it should be compared to the Raptor rather than switching around models. And it beats it in every metric when travelling less than 500 Miles a day. Which the OP says the tracks are within 50 miles so yeah, it makes sense. Yes a Raptor can fill up quicker so would likely be better for daily interstate driving but forcing people to stop for an hour to recharge after 500 MILES OF DRIVING is pretty bloody wise if you ask me.
He said 'tows like a F350' - Its much closer to the towing weight of an F350 than a 150 so its good to use as a comparison that people understand, from a towing POV it is a beast. Sure it cant gooseneck and if you need to gooseneck then the trucks not for you. But sheer towing weight capacity it absolutely destroys the Raptor.
Is it perfect for everyone, no definitely not, but if you look at the Raptor and who it sells to I would hazard a guess that this would be perfect for the majority of Raptor buyers and their daily use requirements... Maybe not yours and thats fine.
I don't have an anti Tesla narrative, I'm disappointed Tesla missed the mark so badly on a truck that could've been good. Fact is, the Tesla sucks as a truck.
I only mentioned the base F150 because it's cheaper than any combination of the Tesla truck. Unlike the Tesla, you can buy a F150 in an endless aray of configurations. They can be bought new for stupid cheap. Sure it's a baby V6 but it'll tow an enclosed trailer and get you to work. Oh and outclassed in what way? A base F150 can be had with an 8' bed, Tesla isn't offering that. It can be had in a short wheelbase, making it easier to park downtown. Tesla is only a 4 door 6' bed.
Comparing to a raptor is fucking stupid and you know it. The raptor is an offroad truck with soft suspension and big tires. The Tesla won't compete with it offroad. The Raptor won't compete with any other truck in it's price range when it comes to towing. It wasn't meant for towing big trailers. Dollar for dollar, compare to a XLT 4x4 with the 3.5 V6 like I said. That'll be the most apple to apple comparison you'll find. I think Tesla is saying the trimotor will tow 14K or 15K? Lets see when they finish SAE testing on that.We all know the F150 will happily pull it's 13K rating. Oh and Ford even offers tow mirrors on the F150.
Tow vehicle weight means next to nothing, good towing performance is wheelbase, suspension, brakes. The tesla isn't going to compare to the F350. Tesla marketing isn't even going that far. The cybertruck is a half ton.
Most raptor owners only need a civic. That applies to most truck owners. But the Tesla is targeted as a half ton family hauler. It should be compared to those. And consider all the other options available.
An electric truck with 500 mile range would fit my needs... If the rest of it didn't suck so bad.
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