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9/17/2009 6:53am
9/17/2009 6:53am
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1/25/2012 2:53pm
I thought the program that all us taxpayers were paying for was designed to get old cars off the road and help the carmakers (didn't us taxpayers just bail some of them out as well?)in the process? Wouldn't that mean getting rid of (as in disposing of) the carcasses and not allowing salvage yards to purchase them and having 180 days to part them out before destroying what is left? Well run salvage yards will have very little left intact in that time frame. Hell, at this point the government is promoting keeping the same clunkers on the road for years to come. And I can't see that helping out any of the mfgs.
Discuss........
Discuss........
Clerical, processing etc...
They put 3-4 quarts of what is basically sandy saltwater into the engine after draining the oil and run her till she blows. Then off to the crusher.
There is other stuff, but I dont remember.
The Shop
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0IcIxhd8ks
VIN numbers were required to be submitted as part of the program and the vehicle was required to be scrapped
What happens to the vehicle I trade in?
The CARS Act requires that the trade-in vehicle be crushed or shredded so that it will not be resold for use in the United States or elsewhere as an automobile. The entity crushing or shredding the vehicles in this manner will be allowed to sell some parts of the vehicle prior to crushing or shredding it, but these parts cannot include the engine or the drive train.
These green people are retards. Hybrid cars will fill landfills with more batteries in the years to come causing more hazardous waste then a combustion motor.
(on the first part, I think that's mostly steam as it's a water silicate blend that's cooking in the engine)
Tiki, in the second part I agree with you.
In regards to hybrids, no one has ever addressed the lifespan of these batteries, cost to replace these batteries and the disposal procedure (and cost) of these batteries. What if the hybrid is in an accident? Do the batteries need to be dug out of the clump of metal before crushing and/or recycling? What if you can't get the battery cell out? What happens to all of these battery cells over the next few or dozen years? How are they disposed of? In an accident, does the battery cell leak? What does it leak? Is it corrosive? Does it harm the roadway or environment? What if a hybrid crashes into a body of water? Does it destry the marine life?
If the purpose of this was to stimulate the US economy …
why wasn’t there a domestic content provision .. for qualifying car ?
And how much did it make?
One of my best friends works for JM Family, a company of 4000+ employees that imports and distributes Toyota's in the SE US....and there are more companies like them nationwide. Then you have all those foreign car dealers in cities across the US, large and small, that employ and support their local economies and charities....then you have all the transporters who get the cars to the dealers and so on and so on and so on
Kalish, the Program allotted $3B to the program. US dealers sold almost 700,000 new cars so lets guess an average sale price of $25K per car would equal $17,500,000,000 in sales and The U.S. Transportation Department says the program also created or saved about 42,000 jobs in the United States.
Foreign car companies contribute to our economy and hire American workers
Even MX/SX racing
Why do you want to disqualify or disadvantage tens of thousands of American workers?
So it's safe to say the sky isn't falling like Obama and the liberals said it was and America is not broke.
What did C4C do for the average person? What did it do for me?
Where did these 25K dollar cars come from? Anyone I knew who took advantage of the program bought cars much less then that number.
Pit Row
not the car .. not the company
imho .. it should of had a provision to rewarded domestic content
thereby maximizing the pressure/demand on parts manufactured in the us .. ie: jobs in the US regardless of which brand
All of those dealers have employees, Toyota USA has employees, the Toyota Distributors (like JM Family) have employees, the trucking transporters have employees...all these people received paychecks and their paychecks went on to pay bills or buy items at other companies or stores that have employees who then received paychecks and they paid bills and purchased items at stores where they have employees and their paychecks went on to pay bills or buy items at other companies or stores that have employees who then received paychecks and they paid bills and purchased items at stores where they have employees and their paychecks went on to pay bills or buy items at other companies or stores that have employees who then received paychecks and they paid bills and purchased items at stores where they have employees and their paychecks went on to pay bills or buy items at other companies or stores that have employees who then received paychecks and they paid bills and purchased items at stores where they have employees
want me to keep going or do you get the picture?
Why do you want to disqualify or disadvantage tens of thousands of American workers?
A domestic content provision could have been setup to reward autos with a higher percentage of domestic parts
simple hypothetical (numbers / bracket points for illustrative purposes only)
below 35% = 0 dollars
35% to 65% = x
65% to 75% = y
75% to 85% = z
85% and above = max
After all the goal of the CFC was to stimulate the US economy .. correct ?
Why do you want to disadvantage tens of thousands of American workers?
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