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Sure, struggling for a cop's Tazer is stupid (and the guy was on drugs). But should he be executed in the street, running away, unarmed- Hell No!
He had a cop's taser, and turned and pointed it at a,pursuing officer in a dimly lit parking lot after fighting off several cops trying to take him into custody.
Now, say your the cop and you see an arm come up with something in it. Do you wait to see if it is a gun?
Do you possibly get tased, and while incapacitated, he takes your weapon?
The guy failed a field sobriety test after falling asleep in the drive through lane and then continued to make poor decisions that resulted in an unfortunate outcome.
It happens
https://www.johnsoncitypress.com/law-enforcement/2019/12/28/Elizabethto…
Now please tell me which of these situations were handled poorly, and by whom?
Some of these local politician facts/comments confuse me as to the dissatisfaction of BLM protestors and being heard by Atlanta GA USA.
ATL current political positions:
ATL Black Mayors(2) - 2010-current- 10 years and running
Current ATL city council members-
Black members- 9 each
White members-5 each
Hispanic members-1 each
I would think the BLM has an advantage in their influence over the city policies in the last decade.
I am very saddened of this recent incident yet feel 10 years to help resolve these city matters/conflicts is within their position responsibilities if the politicians really cared of BLM. Violence and property torchings were not required.
I am confused of common ground progress and trust all people will come together for a common resolution to end this USA conflict. City of ATL has sat on their ass too long IF they choose to man up.
This can all be confirmed by a quick Google too.
Hindsight is easy from your couch, but put yourself in the cops shoes. The guy was passed out drunk, but was cooperative and everything was calm.
Until they tried to cuff him, then he attacked, punched, wrestled with 2 officers. Grabbed a taser off 1 cops belt. But in the split second the guy starts running, how does the other cop know what he just took? Maybe he grabbed his gun?
Adrenaline is running high because you were just attacked, now the guy starts running and as you chase him (at night) he turns and points something at you.
We can all say we would have reacted differently, but when someone who just attacked you turns and points something at you most people would have reacted in self defense. No one wants to die for doing their job.
Of course everyone would have wanted a non fatal outcome, but to say this guy was a victim of police abuse is just not accurate. Self responsibility is something people seem to not recognize anymore, everything that happens to them is someone else's fault.
These officers appeared to be handling everything professionally and correctly, right up until he wrestled with them and took a weapon. At that point, the officer didn't really have a choice. If the officer were to have gotten tazed, there would have been too high of a chance of him getting his firearm taken from him as well.
I am a believer that there is bias in our legal and justice systems, but this case wasn't a demonstration of that. I feel for all involved, but this officer did what he had to do. Asking him to hold his fire against someone pointing a weapon at him is just a bit too naïve and idealistic.
The worst part about this is how no one is viewing it on the merits of this individual event because of the lack of acknowledgement for so many other events (my opinion). The bodycam video definitely appears that these officers were doing everything right and treating this man with respect and dignity during the entire process. I truly believe that if he didn't take the tazer and point it back towards the officer, he would not have been shot by either of them.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/14/us/videos-rayshard-brooks-shooting-a…
It's funny you place blame on the police in any capacity here. They did everything absolutely right and he chose to assault them, steal a taser and fire the taser at an officer. Theres a lot of stuff that needs changed and we need to weed out the bad police but when you use 100% justifiable shootings as examples you'll start to lose support from the vast majority of people. If you go after a cop (or anyone for that matter) with a taser, knife, gun, bat, lead pipe, crow bar etc etc etc you're more than likely going to get shot. This will absolutely never change in any way, shape or form. If you wanna see the good police quit and the bad police stay, then take away their rights to protect themselves or others. You'll have anyone with a brain go into another profession and a bunch of buffoons running around enforcing the laws.
There is little doubt that this guy would have killed a cop or anyone else in his way.
The cops did what needed to be done. You wrestle with police and take a weapon like a taser and point to shoot a cop then expect to be brought down with lethal force.
This is not rocket science folks. Play stupid games win stupid prizes is pretty accurate here.
How can the officers in question say their life was in danger/threatened when one, the dude was running away from them when he fired off the taser, and two, LEO's have historically testified in abuse of power cases that they are 100% non-lethal...
These guys are pretty much fucked legally. And yes, I ran this by some family who would know.
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I’m one of the first to call out abuse of power by LEOs who cross those lines. To me, this is not one of those times.
If only Brooks had not armed himself with the taser, and attempted to fire at the officer, I truly believe he’d be home from the drunk tank by now.
I'm not trying to say those guys weren't in a heat of the moment situation, but they knew who he was, had his car, and the officer who had his taser taken knew he only had the taser because he had his sidearm in his hand. That and there was an additional covering officer to handle the situation with lethal force if the perp turned around and started running back towards the officer to try and grab said firearm.
At worst they let the guy run away and pick him up at a later time.
Brooks was running away with zero attempt to stop and turn around when he discharged the taser and was then shot IN THE BACK. I shoot a dude robbing my house in the back who actually has a gun and he dies, I will be the one arrested and sued because he was trying to escape and flee the scene, therefore no longer presenting a clear and present danger.
Oh yeah there is this, my Uncle is a well respected criminal defense attorney here in LA who has defended LEO's in these exact kinds of cases. Getting shot in the back while fleeing is always a losing proposition for the shooter, especially when there was no firearm in the perps hand.
2020 sucks donkey dick.
Is there any personal responsibility anymore? How about HE doesn’t drive DUI. How about HE doesn’t wrestle with cop. How about HE doesn’t take cops taser. How about HE doesn’t point taser at cop.
Yeah, this is exactly the kind of guy you just want to let run away.
Come on man.....
Good riddance to this scumbag. He got exactly what he deserved.
Lesson: don’t drive dui, and if you do, don’t wrestle with cop, and if you do, don’t steal his taser, and if you do don’t turn and point taser at cop, and if you do, boom your dead.
Seems pretty simple.
His choices resulted in his death. And only his choices.
He could of just gone to the drunk tank like most everyone else who gets pulled over for DUI.
His choices resulted in his death.
For whatever reason shit went sideways when the officers insisted on arresting him, and here we are. I'm strictly pointing out the facts of the situation which will be used against the dept/officers in a court of law by a competent attorney.
Do I think the guy was an asshole? Yes. Could it have been handled differently? Yes.
Go it.
Yeah they totally should have just let this dude go home. Yup.
I guess this is one discussion I'll just step out of. Carry on fellas.
I havent read much about this particular case. Seems like the guy made some pretty big mistakes, and deserved a severe reaction, but probably didn't need to be shot in the back.
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