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Just watched it. Interesting.
Makes some interesting points in regards to adderall. That shit scares me. I’m the type of person that would probably never be able to get off that shit if I ever started on it.
I was really wild as a kid and energetic. I remember first grade my teacher suggest I get started on Ritalin. My mom took me to the doc. Doc wrote the script apparently. I remember taking it for a week and just feeling bizarre. And she immediately took me off it. Said I was a different kid. Parents just let me get my hyper activity out through dirt bikes thank god.
And in college I did see adderrall get passed around like no big deal. People would take an addy. Stay up all night studying and then get a decent grade on an exam.
Stewart was on it...I don’t wanna start js7 thread. But there’s a pro athlete in the documentary attesting that it helped him immensely post injury etc....
My brother was on some form of this stuff as a kid and he quit taking it because it just made him feel terrible after a while. He would have wierd side effects. But when he was on it he was focused in the zone. Wierd. He’s struggled being off it. But he’s doing other things to try and cope with the distraction issues. And I think it’s working out better for him.
Anybody on this stuff or have experience with it ?
Makes some interesting points in regards to adderall. That shit scares me. I’m the type of person that would probably never be able to get off that shit if I ever started on it.
I was really wild as a kid and energetic. I remember first grade my teacher suggest I get started on Ritalin. My mom took me to the doc. Doc wrote the script apparently. I remember taking it for a week and just feeling bizarre. And she immediately took me off it. Said I was a different kid. Parents just let me get my hyper activity out through dirt bikes thank god.
And in college I did see adderrall get passed around like no big deal. People would take an addy. Stay up all night studying and then get a decent grade on an exam.
Stewart was on it...I don’t wanna start js7 thread. But there’s a pro athlete in the documentary attesting that it helped him immensely post injury etc....
My brother was on some form of this stuff as a kid and he quit taking it because it just made him feel terrible after a while. He would have wierd side effects. But when he was on it he was focused in the zone. Wierd. He’s struggled being off it. But he’s doing other things to try and cope with the distraction issues. And I think it’s working out better for him.
Anybody on this stuff or have experience with it ?
To your main point, I think it's criminal how they're giving these pharmaceuticals to children. It's way over prescribed. I've worked with kids for years and from my perspective it seems to be the quick fix teachers/schools/parents go to if they arent good at their jobs. Kids are not hard to manage. But if you dont know what you're doing or cannot control your own emotions, then every kid will seem like a unruly & hyper shithead.
And with what most people feed their kids these days, how is it anyone is surprised their kid is hyper? What did they think that sugar cereal for breakfast was gonna do? Or that Monster Energy you put in their lunch?
And then as the kids hit puberty, the years of ritalin abuse takes it's toll, depression sets in so it's time for a prozac prescription. Nothing like a drug with psychoactive side effects to really derail your teenager.
My younger brother was constantly getting kicked out of school. He woulda been a prime candidate for ritalin if he was a child today. My mom figured out his reactions were to food coloring. Once anything with food coloring was taken out of his diet he was a completely different person. Now days their are studies that prove just how nasty that shit is. Some people have very adverse reactions to it.
His son had to live with me for a while during my brother's divorce. He's a spitting image of his father. Total nightmare of a child that nobody could get to act right. After four days of eating only home cooked meals and child behaviour modification I learned from child development course Ive taken he was a completely different kid. So much so that my brother didnt even recognize him when he came to visit. Polite, calm, manageable.
Totally anecdotal example. Take it for what it's worth. But I've never met a kid I couldn't get the best out of.
The Shop
I dabbled with it in college occasionally when I needed an extra kick for studying or hw. Personally, I don't think I could take it on a regular basis. The side effects suck, no appetite etc.
Took an extended release one Friday morning to study for and take an exam. Went to a show at the local bar that night and the beers were going down like never before. Didn't release why until the next day...
I just think they take bored kids, who react as any normal human being would to an oppressive, institutionalized environment, and turn them into life-long drug customers. I think the whole thing is total horseshit.
My life soared when I got out of US public schools. I was so fucking depressed to be there but I didn't realize it. Of course, they tried to put me on drugs (this was the 80s). The only reason I wasn't fooled was watching my older brother get dosed into a complete zombie with no goals who just slept all the time.
Wonder how many college degrees have been secured while illegally on adderall? Should we take their degree ?
I was tempted to take adderall in College. Never did wanted the grade I could get on my own.
I work with a woman on addy and I’m scared for
Her. She’s at such a high dose. Her resting heart rate is like 110-120. She’s always jacked up. And by lunch she crashes goes into the break room. Pops another one and after lunch she’s right back in it. I wish she’d get off it. I feel like it’s wrecking her cardiovascular system and her body in general. She’s awesome at her job. Truly is, but is it just because the drugs keep her wired to be?
I’m so glad my little brother got off that shit. he gained 40 pounds after stopping. He’s about 6 foot 190lbs now. Not interested in college or school what so ever. And everyone wants to make kids like him feel like they NEED to want to go to college.
Bingo was his name-o.
Every business owner I know today wouldve been diagnosed with ADD or ADHD as a kid had it been as prevalent as it is today. They would've been ruined before they got started.
Heck, most developed countries dont even think it's a real disease. Big pharma is just pulling the wool over everyone's eyes here and found a way to legally sell meth.
Have to be careful because 3 hits and I’ll read at half the speed. Plus adderall kills the gain train since I can’t eat as much. Also meditation (Taoist) supposedly helps a lot with improving focus, but I haven’t really tried that out yet........
When we finally decided to try meds with my son, we’d tried tons of alternatives. Diet, occupational therapy, counseling, and anything else because we didn’t want to think about medicating him. Finally we ran out of options. His first attempts at ritalin and concerta were somewhat successful, but had other issues or became less effective over time. Adderall has remained effective for the last couple of years, and I’m hoping it remains that way.
Without it, he’d not be able to function in school. He’d probably have no chance at a productive life. He isn’t a stereotypical “hyper” kid, he literally can’t focus on anything for more than a few minutes without it. It isn’t something that you could beat out of it like all those “more discipline” folks would like to think.
I don’t consider myself a lazy parent. My oldest three children have their quirks, but are very successful in school and life. We never considered medication, we dealt with issues that they had and they grew from them. That just didn’t work with our youngest no matter how hard we tried.
As for adderall being just like meth, that’s false. They are chemically similar, but being chemically similar doesn’t equate to being the same. The small differences are huge. Think of it this way, we need water to survive. We need oxygen to survive. We ingest H2O, but if you ingest H2O2, you’ll die. Being similar chemically isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be, one extra oxygen atom takes an essential substance and turns it into a poison.
Pit Row
That’s why I know if I ever swallowed that shit I’d never never be able to get off it. and then I’d turn into the woman I work with.
My brother was on that shit all his life. Vyvanse another one. He quit it and gained weight. Has hard time focusing and staying in task but he’s trying to find other ways of gearing his mind to stay on task.
(One patient)
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