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Well I thought it'd be fun to buy a 125 like I used to race when I was younger. Kind of get away from the 450 for a couple practices. I bought the bike with riding it with a "jetting" issue. The problem is the bike runs great on the stand. Revs flawless and starts right up first or second kick. Once I put it in gear and run it all hell breaks. As soon as the power should kick in it loads up or runs like it's not warmed up. So bottom of the gear great, top is horrible. I will now list the shit I already checked on it because I feel like I've tried everything.
I have:
Checked reeds
Cleaned powervalves and reinstalled them correctly
Rebuilt carburetor and put back to recommended jetting specs
replaced stator and magneto
Repacked silencer and checked if pipe was clogged
I've tried to advance or retard timing to no luck
I've also ohm checked the ignition coil
My next steps are replacing reeds (just in case)
Buying the really expensive spark plug that Suzuki recommends
Buying a new CDI box
Any other advice would be appreciated. I'm just at a loss. Thanks
I have:
Checked reeds
Cleaned powervalves and reinstalled them correctly
Rebuilt carburetor and put back to recommended jetting specs
replaced stator and magneto
Repacked silencer and checked if pipe was clogged
I've tried to advance or retard timing to no luck
I've also ohm checked the ignition coil
My next steps are replacing reeds (just in case)
Buying the really expensive spark plug that Suzuki recommends
Buying a new CDI box
Any other advice would be appreciated. I'm just at a loss. Thanks
Have you done a leak test? If so, how log did it hold 6psi of pressure.
Have you done a vacuum test? How log did it hold?
How are your power valves adjusted?
Have you set the float height?
Have you checked the kill switch?
The parts you replaced...Are they OEM or aftermarket?
Paw Paw
I don't know what a leak test or a vacuum test is (sorry For the ignorance)
Going to check the float height but won't that effect the bike revving up on the stand?
Do you just un hook the kill switch? To test it?
I replaced most oem parts but they are eBay finds
The reeds are v force.
Thanks for the help. I'm interested about the kill switch as to why that would effect the top end at load.
Yes the kill switch can vibrate and cause it to kill the spark when it is vibrating. Disconnect it.
The float level is very important as the engine rpms come up under long load times the fuel can be used up in the float bowl and create fuel starvation and or flooding is set too low or too high that you can't duplicate while the bike is on the stand as the rev time is much shorter.
If the stator is not OEM, then that could be your issue cause. I have seen too many after market or rewound units do some weird things.
The basic starting point of trouble shooting is to know the basic's of your engine status, like the compression, leak testing and vacuum testing. With out these basics you are just shooting in the dark.
Assume nothing!
Paw Paw
and no to the T-shirt question.
The Shop
I see a lot of wear in the cylinder.
Paw Paw
One thing I read concerned me, you said you had to double stack the base gasket so the piston doesnt hit the head, you sure you have the right piston in it? Also has the head been shaved at all?
I ran the wrong plug in my YZ250 one time and it would miss on the top end as well. Also went thru a kill switch issue with mine recently.
Have you checked your squish clearance? In simple terms, it's the measurement between the piston and the cylinder head. Should be about 1mm (I forget the exact figure), but if you've never done it before it's a pretty simple job using a piece of solder - lots of how to videos on YouTube for this. It's a crucial measurement and if you're having to double-up on base gaskets, your cylinder and head may have been decked so the additional base gaskets are a way of increasing the gap to achieve the correct squish measurement.
The flat top vs domed piston is a real issue as the pistons will fit, but the squish will be way off.
Also, the cylinder shows a lot of wear.
The underside of the piston photo?
Paw Paw
Paw Paw
Pit Row
My buddy has a 2004 RM125, I should have looked closer at his when we did his top end so I could give a better reference.
I was going to say come down to Coops some time and ride that 125 in the sand. Lol Maybe I will run into you sometime and check it out in person.
I am interested to see what differences you have on the new cylinder.
So since I was ignorant of the flat top piston head and how it is radically different I took a side by side photo of the difference. Just an update I have a new cylinder just waiting on the powervalves in the mail to put it all back together. I hope this will help out someone else that may be confused. Buying a used bike is the definition of gambling. I'll keep posting the progression. Thanks guys
Also, a buddy has an RM125 about same year as this. Stock jetting was horribly rich, like a 470 main or so? He ended up having to lean that way out to get it to run clean. It was a very low hour, tight bike, no other probs.
So I finally got my stock cylinder, stock head and stock main powervalve. I put it all together and the thing rips. The amount of relief I felt when the bike ran thought the gears flawlessly was something else. No I can finally spend money to make it look good. With the amount of money I put into the engine it might be naked this year lol
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