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First Impressions: 2018 Alta Motors Redshift MXR and MX

What's The Future of Fast really like? Can we still say Braap?

Vital Review

It's truly amazing how far the Alta crew has come since we saw its predecessor, BRD, and then the first version of the Alta at the AIMExpo in 2014. While there's been a few electric motocross-based offerings on the market, the Redshift MX really stands out as the first one to be comparable and even competitive when compared to the current internal combustion offerings that we're used to. Beyond that they've kicked off 2018 with a big jump in performance as they launched a new race-focused model, the MXR, and were also able to significantly cut the costs on their standard MX model. Now their standard 2018 Redshift MX comes in around $4500 cheaper than the '17 version, including a few small updates to power and other small parts throughout the bike, for a MSRP of $10,495. So does that mean

It's truly amazing how far the Alta crew has come since we saw its predecessor, BRD, and then the first version of the Alta at the AIMExpo in 2014. While there's been a few electric motocross-based offerings on the market, the Redshift MX really stands out as the first one to be comparable and even competitive when compared to the current internal combustion offerings that we're used to. Beyond that they've kicked off 2018 with a big jump in performance as they launched a new race-focused model, the MXR, and were also able to significantly cut the costs on their standard MX model. Now their standard 2018 Redshift MX comes in around $4500 cheaper than the '17 version, including a few small updates to power and other small parts throughout the bike, for a MSRP of $10,495. So does that mean the latest and greatest Redshift MXR takes over the old pricing slot at $15,000? Nope, it slides in at $11,995, showing that Alta Motors is figuring out the market, their suppliers, and how to move their product...allowing them to make these cuts and become more competitive in the market place.

As we mentioned, the big news is the MXR model which we dropped specs on last month and falls in as a higher-end offering for the moto/track focused crowd. With a full selling year under their belt and this new model to introduce, Alta Motors decided to conduct their first ever wide-spread media launch at Perris Raceway to give us an opportunity to test the '18 Redshift MX and MXR side-by-side, plus work with their crew to learn more about the machines and the brand. Typically a First Impressions test for us includes our short and sweet, but informative videos to dive into changes on new models. Well in this case, things are so new we could ramble on forever about what it was like to test out both these bikes. So this go around we've added our usual video (directly below), along with another video interviewing Chief Technical Office and Co-Founder Derek Dorresteyn about some aspects of development we wanted to know. Below that you'll find a player for an audio file, which plays out the extended thoughts on the machines and experiences of the day. Then to end the article, you'll find a recap of what's new with the bikes and specs, enjoy!

First Impressions: 2018 Alta Motors Redshift MXR and MX

As we mention in the video above, wrapping all our thoughts on the Alta Redshifts into the video was near impossible, so you'll find some deeper comparisons and thoughts on the bike in an audio file below, directly below our next video where we do a quick impromptu interview with CTO and co-founder Derek Dorresteyn. This was done quickly as Derek had to catch a flight, so we apologize about some background noise from track equipment but it's definitely worth clicking play.

Derek will also be joining us next week for a round of our Forum QNA. If you have questions of your own for one of the main men behind the bike, get them ready and dive into our forum next week to ask him yourself.

Developing an Electric Motocross Bike: Derek Dorresteyn - Alta Motors

If you've scrolled to hear, we're guessing you want to hear more. Click play on the audio player below for our extended thoughts on hte bike and while you're listening, you can check out the specs and press release info below.

Podcast: In-Depth Thoughts on the Alta Motors 2018 Redshift MXR and MX

Alta Motors Release Info:

Designed to compete with a modern 350, the MXR comes equipped with 50 HP and more torque than its predecessors. The 2018 MXR Performance Maps allow the Redshift to be just as capable as a novice trail and woods bike as it is a professional MX2/Lites class motocrosser. The MXR requires no air filters, oil changes, or top end rebuilds, so you can spend less time wrenching on your bike and more time riding. Join the growing number of people that believe this is one of the most fun motorcycles ever built.

Mile for mile, there is no smaller, more compact, energy dense battery pack in transportation. The Alta Pack is waterproof rated up to IP67, is durable enough to handle shocks and vibes up to 20G, and is digitally self-monitoring. Our stacked honeycomb architecture allows for extreme energy density at 185 watt hours per kilogram, combined with a unique thermal wicking system to shed heat faster than any other lithium-ion transportation battery in production.

Alta’s water-cooled 14,000 RPM motor is pound for pound one of the most powerful in motorsports. It is optimized to the narrow width of the Redshift’s bulkhead and is precisely located at the roll center of the bike. This placement coupled with a very low counter-rotational mass allows for the lowest polar moment of inertia in motorcycling - drastically minimizing any gyroscopic impediment to handling. The Redshift's motor weighs 15lbs and puts out 50 HP at the countershaft and pushes power through a 3.5:1 gear reduction to deliver 147 ft-lbs of torque from a dead stop at 0 RPM.

The Redshift Bulkhead—the chassis core—functions as the outer motor casing, and the cooling circuit for the motor and inverter, as well as the transmission case for the gear reduction. Additionally, it is the main structural hub, connecting to the rear suspension, the airframe, the forged chassis, and the trellis skidframe. All of this integration is coordinated with very specific strength, weight, and stiffness goals to produce the best-handling motocrosser ever made.

Since 1973 Acerbis has been producing high quality plastic bodywork and the company has worked with everyone from legends like Preston Petty to OEM manufacturers such as Yamaha. We're proud to partner with them on the production of our Redshift plastics and subframe in an effort to create the vision of Alta Motors and the future of fast.

WP is a proven performer across every discipline of off road racing from amateur to international venues. Alta selected the WP AER suspension, which we believe to be the best air-sprung fork on the market, for the MXR for a significant weight savings and infinite tunability. The MXR also features an upgraded rear shock with improved valving and linkage dynamics, and additional weight savings from the short-body reservoir.

Brembo S.P.A. is the gold standard for high performance brake systems on motorcycles. Founded in 1961, the Italian company produces a range of products that can be found on motorcycles on the street and the trail. The Redshift MXR employs cast and machined Brembo calipers.

Warp 9 Racing is an American manufacturer of high performance motorcycle wheels. In a short amount of time Warp 9 Racing has gone from a boutique upstart to an OE supplier, offering some of the highest quality wheels on the market. We chose to work with Warp 9 Racing because their wheels are produced here in the US, and their exacting demands for quality and performance match our own.

With more than a century of innovation and racing heritage, Dunlop is the go-to for performance off-road motorcycle tires.

Map Options

  • ECO: A traction map that offers the best range profile. Also a great map for just starting out.
  • SPORT: Performance profile engineered to line up with 250f race machinery.
  • PERFORMANCE: Similar traits as the Sport map but with more bottom end and traction – it also makes a great starting gate map
  • OVERCLOCKED: Maximum torque and power are available without restriction – if you have the skill to control it. Thermal limiting will protect the machine if you push too hard.

DRIVETRAIN

  • MOTOR - High Speed PMAC
  • TORQUE* - 147 ft-lbs
  • POWER* - 50 HP
  • TRANSMISSION - 1 Speed
  • GEAR RATIO - 3.5 : 1
  • MAJOR MAINTENANCE CYCLE - 1000 Hours
  • SPROCKETS - 12F / 53R
  • BATTERY TYPE - Waterproof Li-Ion 350v
  • CAPACITY - 5.8kWh
  • CHARGER - 2.7kW or 3.3kW Offboard
  • RECHARGE TIME** - 1.5 hrs(240v)
  • ELECTRONICS - Alta-Digital, 4 Maps

COMPONENTS

  • FRONT FORK - WP AER 48 Fully Adjustable
  • REAR SHOCK - WP 2018 Alta Spec
  • FRONT BRAKE - Brembo Two Piston 260mm Rotor
  • REAR BRAKE - Brembo Single Piston 240mm Rotor
  • WHEELS - Warp 9 Elite 21"F / 19"R
  • TIRES - Dunlop Geomax MX3S

SPECIFICATIONS

  • FRAME - Forged & Welded Aluminum
  • SWINGARM - Permanent Mold Aircraft Aluminum
  • WET WEIGHT - 259 lbs
  • WHEELBASE - 58.56"
  • SEAT HEIGHT - 37.5"
  • RAKE - 27°
  • OFFSET - 55mm

For more information on the RedShift MXR, head over to AltaMotors.co/RedShiftMXR.

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Another benefit I see that no one is really talking about here is the potential to expand riding opportunities due to the noise reduction. You could now have tracks within striking distance of residential areas with dust control or light pollution (at night) being the only real issue to contend with. It would be nice to be able to swap riding for the gym during the week.

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Thanks for bringing this to us Michael, and Alta. Great information as always, detail beyond anyone else. There won't be much left for the Q&A

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Nope, there’s virtually no rotating mass which makes the bikes feel much lighter than they really are. Besides that they’re very well balanced with most of its weight being centered, which was Yamaha’s reasoning for the engineering of their backwards motor, of course it still had a lot of rotating mass being a 4 stroke and combustion.

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Interesting, Michael. Thanks. That bit about landing off jumps and how the bike meters the power was pretty cool. I wonder if there is any possibility of something failing (ECU?) and causing the machine to go crazy with power?

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First Look: 2018 Alta Motors RedShift MXR

First a massive price drop and now more power, Alta Motors is pinned!

Vital MX: On the heels of announcing a massive price reduction on their existing lineup of RedShift models for 2018, including $4500 off the MX model, Alta has released a top-of-the-line version called the MXR. The main updates focus around the battery pack and drive motor, producing 50 horsepower and 147 foot pounds of torque, up eight hp and 27 ftlbs over the prior model. Beyond that, a switch from WP's 4CS to AER 48 air fork along with shock updates are focused around improving the ride of the bike. The fork and other changes around the bike have also allowed for a six pound weight reduction, bringing the total down to 259 pounds.

Beyond this, the quick recharge time was trimmed by about 40 minutes; down from two hours to one hour and 20 minutes. Tires on the MXR have also been

Vital MX: On the heels of announcing a massive price reduction on their existing lineup of RedShift models for 2018, including $4500 off the MX model, Alta has released a top-of-the-line version called the MXR. The main updates focus around the battery pack and drive motor, producing 50 horsepower and 147 foot pounds of torque, up eight hp and 27 ftlbs over the prior model. Beyond that, a switch from WP's 4CS to AER 48 air fork along with shock updates are focused around improving the ride of the bike. The fork and other changes around the bike have also allowed for a six pound weight reduction, bringing the total down to 259 pounds.

Beyond this, the quick recharge time was trimmed by about 40 minutes; down from two hours to one hour and 20 minutes. Tires on the MXR have also been upgraded from Bridgestone Battlecross X30s to Dunlop's popular MX3S and they're also claiming improved battery life while riding, even with the increase in power. Last up, the price of the MXR is set at $11,995, which is about $1,500 more expensive than the standard 2018 RedShift MX. But this is actually $3,000 lower than the standard MX was in 2017, when they were set around the $15,000 mark. For more details on the bike, updates, and figures behind it, scroll below for Alta Motors official info.

Alta Motors Release Info:

Designed to compete with a modern 350, the MXR comes equipped with 50 HP and more torque than its predecessors. The 2018 MXR Performance Maps allow the Redshift to be just as capable as a novice trail and woods bike as it is a professional MX2/Lites class motocrosser. The MXR requires no air filters, oil changes, or top end rebuilds, so you can spend less time wrenching on your bike and more time riding. Join the growing number of people that believe this is one of the most fun motorcycles ever built.

Mile for mile, there is no smaller, more compact, energy dense battery pack in transportation. The Alta Pack is waterproof rated up to IP67, is durable enough to handle shocks and vibes up to 20G, and is digitally self-monitoring. Our stacked honeycomb architecture allows for extreme energy density at 185 watt hours per kilogram, combined with a unique thermal wicking system to shed heat faster than any other lithium-ion transportation battery in production.

Alta’s water-cooled 14,000 RPM motor is pound for pound one of the most powerful in motorsports. It is optimized to the narrow width of the Redshift’s bulkhead and is precisely located at the roll center of the bike. This placement coupled with a very low counter-rotational mass allows for the lowest polar moment of inertia in motorcycling - drastically minimizing any gyroscopic impediment to handling. The Redshift's motor weighs 15lbs and puts out 50 HP at the countershaft and pushes power through a 3.5:1 gear reduction to deliver 147 ft-lbs of torque from a dead stop at 0 RPM.

The Redshift Bulkhead—the chassis core—functions as the outer motor casing, and the cooling circuit for the motor and inverter, as well as the transmission case for the gear reduction. Additionally, it is the main structural hub, connecting to the rear suspension, the airframe, the forged chassis, and the trellis skidframe. All of this integration is coordinated with very specific strength, weight, and stiffness goals to produce the best-handling motocrosser ever made.

Since 1973 Acerbis has been producing high quality plastic bodywork and the company has worked with everyone from legends like Preston Petty to OEM manufacturers such as Yamaha. We're proud to partner with them on the production of our Redshift plastics and subframe in an effort to create the vision of Alta Motors and the future of fast.

WP is a proven performer across every discipline of off road racing from amateur to international venues. Alta selected the WP AER suspension, which we believe to be the best air-sprung fork on the market, for the MXR for a significant weight savings and infinite tunability. The MXR also features an upgraded rear shock with improved valving and linkage dynamics, and additional weight savings from the short-body reservoir.

Brembo S.P.A. is the gold standard for high performance brake systems on motorcycles. Founded in 1961, the Italian company produces a range of products that can be found on motorcycles on the street and the trail. The Redshift MXR employs cast and machined Brembo calipers.

Warp 9 Racing is an American manufacturer of high performance motorcycle wheels. In a short amount of time Warp 9 Racing has gone from a boutique upstart to an OE supplier, offering some of the highest quality wheels on the market. We chose to work with Warp 9 Racing because their wheels are produced here in the US, and their exacting demands for quality and performance match our own.

With more than a century of innovation and racing heritage, Dunlop is the go-to for performance off-road motorcycle tires.

Map Options

  • ECO: A traction map that offers the best range profile. Also a great map for just starting out.
  • SPORT: Performance profile engineered to line up with 250f race machinery.
  • PERFORMANCE: Similar traits as the Sport map but with more bottom end and traction – it also makes a great starting gate map
  • OVERCLOCKED: Maximum torque and power are available without restriction – if you have the skill to control it. Thermal limiting will protect the machine if you push too hard.

DRIVETRAIN

  • MOTOR - High Speed PMAC
  • TORQUE* - 147 ft-lbs
  • POWER* - 50 HP
  • TRANSMISSION - 1 Speed
  • GEAR RATIO - 3.5 : 1
  • MAJOR MAINTENANCE CYCLE - 1000 Hours
  • SPROCKETS - 12F / 53R
  • BATTERY TYPE - Waterproof Li-Ion 350v
  • CAPACITY - 5.8kWh
  • CHARGER - 2.7kW or 3.3kW Offboard
  • RECHARGE TIME** - 1.5 hrs(240v)
  • ELECTRONICS - Alta-Digital, 4 Maps

COMPONENTS

  • FRONT FORK - WP AER 48 Fully Adjustable
  • REAR SHOCK - WP 2018 Alta Spec
  • FRONT BRAKE - Brembo Two Piston 260mm Rotor
  • REAR BRAKE - Brembo Single Piston 240mm Rotor
  • WHEELS - Warp 9 Elite 21"F / 19"R
  • TIRES - Dunlop Geomax MX3S

SPECIFICATIONS

  • FRAME - Forged & Welded Aluminum
  • SWINGARM - Permanent Mold Aircraft Aluminum
  • WET WEIGHT - 259 lbs
  • WHEELBASE - 58.56"
  • SEAT HEIGHT - 37.5"
  • RAKE - 27°
  • OFFSET - 55mm

For more information on the RedShift MXR, head over to AltaMotors.co/RedShiftMXR.

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These are super fun to ride. I'm trying to convince myself to get one over a 500exc. Less practical but I can ride the shit out of those things in the woods. It makes ruts and rocks and shit so stupid easy.

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Bike seems interesting. But advertising Warp 9 wheels as an American manufacture is a joke ! Both Vital MX and Alta shouldn't deceive their customers. Warp 9 is an American based company that has all their products manufactured in CHINA ! Big difference !

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Warp9 employees American workers in Utah to handle all final assembly of their wheels. We have been using and selling Warp9 wheels and they are a great company with quality products.

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According to Alta, as I asked this question yesterday as included very skeptical of Warp9 products...the newest batch of rims and hubs are a product that they partnered with them on, it’s all new, and US made.

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I think it's a killer bike and if I was in the market the way I ride now (not much time and only for an hour or two at a time) this bike would really suit my tastes.
Once I am in the market, no doubt the technology will even be a fair bit better.
Great specifications imo.

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If the motor on my 450 blows, I can likely get it back up and running within a few days. If the motor and/or battery malfunctions on the Alta, I can't imagine the owner will be able to fix the issue on their own with a service manual. I prefer internal combustion for its convenience with servicing and fueling. I won't be in the market for an electric bike until, (1) the range and charging are improved, and (2) they are serviceable by the owner.

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The malfunctions are extremely rare. There's no moving parts. A big brushless motor has like 4 parts. You're making up a problem that doesn't exist.

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You must be paid by a current manufacturer to play devils advocate, if not you're severely missing the point.

This guy is saying 1) You get a 2 year/1000 hour full replacement warranty. 2) There is literally no maintenance, although I've heard guys mentioning a gear oil change at 500 hours or so. Go cost the maintenance for 1000 hours of operation on a 450 then compare. You can throw a rod and be in for over 2k on parts with a 450. Oil changes and filters alone every 10 hours for 1000 hours will cost you approximately $2000. Do a piston on a 450 every 50 hours = $3500 in parts approximately. Do a crank every 100 hours = $3500.

Its really awesome you have an early 90s warrior that still runs, any air cooled four stroke motor from that era will basically run without oil if you ask it to, and there is a ton of merit in that...however its got like 20 horse power stock. A 9 year old on a YZ85 can literally keep up if not win a drag race.

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Also, not sure why you’re making an arbitrary comparison of a yz85 to a warrior. I was speaking to the reliability of internal combustion motors vs. the degradation of electrical components over time.

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I love those 90s four stroke engines. I had a 300EX that I thought was one of the most enjoyable quads to ride ever. They're reliable because they aren't built to be a fire breather, as opposed to a 450, or an Alta. The YZ85 comparison is to show how much power they're leaving on the table in the name of reliability. No disrespect at all.

My service intervals are a big conservative I believe. If you put 100 hours on a 450 you've probably been through two top ends and are at least eyeballing a crank in the near future. 10 hours on an oil change on my 350 is about the max I would go. I didn't quote any labor cost.

I agree with you vs the guy above $3400 on a top and bottom end is a little off. I cost $500 on a top end alone with a shop doing it. A bottom end should be in the $800 range I would assume. Back to my argument on service intervals, if we cut those in half, its still about the price of replacing that battery. I started thinking about that motor too, that definitely is an X factor. At the end of the day none us are keeping a bike for 1000 hours so it doesn't even matter but I would love to see one of these electric bikes at hour 900 for sure.

To your point about being out performed, I think it depends on what's your cup of tea but whatever is racing is what will be developed. The Japanese we know have the budget to push development, as it stands Alta is pushing themselves which is cool but the Market will dictate how far they will go at some point.

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If only my income were supplemted by arguing on a moto forum.

I think your estimates are a bit exaggerated. I personally don’t know any body who follows service intervals remotely close to what you’re suggesting.

It’s $3400 for a replacement battery. What about a replacement motor? I can’t imagine those come cheap. There’s no mention on how long the motor will last.

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The battery is a 10-minute swap with basic hand tools. The Owners/Repair manual for all Alta Redshift Models can be accessed for free on their website: https://www.altamotors.co/ownersmanual/

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How much does a spare battery cost? The manual does not instruct someone on how to repair a fried battery and/or motor. Im guessing thats because they can't really be repaired, but only replaced.

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If you did the top end at 50hrs and the bottom end at 200hrs on a CRF450 which is far longer than reccomended it would cost you far more than $3400 in parts (plus specialised tools, and knowledge) not to mention all the other consumables the Alta doesnt consume to reach the $1000 hrs of run time. Tell me though, how good is the resale on a 250f with 200hrs on it? Virtually nothing. This argument about resale because the battery is expensive is silly, I literally gave away a 2007 KTM450f because the engine let go and it needed a top end, plus barrel, plus head plus all new valves and was gonna be more than the bikes worth. This is no different. Sure your 20yr old farm quad will at last it but then you would have to admit it 'surpasses that in every category' - Unless your expectation is 'must surpass all gas bikes in all categories regardless of what the intent of the bike is' which is an impossible standard because that no single gas bike would even meet. The equivalent performace 4 stroke from 1991 would probably be a Husaberg and that bike probably stopped running in 1992. #canondaleforlife

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$3400 for a top and bottom end? I don’t know what shop you go to, but you may want to start going somewhere else or get some mechanical courage and do the labor yourself. Motorsport has a wiseco top and bottom end kit for $350.

I’m talking about resale from a buyers perspective, not the sellers. I purchased 2008 450f in 2016 for $2k. Bike was clean and ran it for an entire season without issue. I ride the bike fairly regularly and I’ve only changed the topend once for pure maintance and peace of mind reasons. Now, buying an 8yr old Alta will likely need a new battery/motor. If prices hold firm, a battery will cost $3400 and a motor can’t be cheap. Are you picking up what I’m putting down?

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If you require a new battery (after the full two-year replacement warranty expires) and you surpass the 1,000 operating hour life of the battery it will cost you around $3,400.

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Geez, Id hate to buy one of these second-hand a couple years down the road and discover that I have to spend $3,400 to make it last a couple more years. I imagine Alta's are going to be a tough sell on the second hand market, especially since the battery costs about the same as a gas dirt bike that out performs it. On another note, I have a 1991 Yamaha Warrior that has only had minor service. The motor has never been torn into. The quad has mainly been sitting since the late 90's. Yet every time i want to fire it up, i just clean the carb and put fresh gas. It rides just like the day it was purchased. I can't imagine getting that level of reliability out of an electric motorcycle. At least not yet. Once electric surpasses gas performance in every category, I won't be int the market for one.

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Depends on the rider and track conditions:

Here is what we are seeing with the previous generation Alta (i.e. less efficient):

Offroad enduro/singletrack - We are averaging 2 hours with a fast rider 3-4 hours with an intermediate rider
Motocross - A pro rider can get a 30-45 minute moto on a deep track, intermediate riders are getting close to 1.5-2 hours between charges.

The new R spec bike has the potential to get better times without any heat limiting issues.

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Ten pounds heavier than the heaviest 2018 450 with a full tank! Just like the 450's, it will be interesting to see how much weight they can drop in the next 5-10 years.

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I had a chance to ride one, once you get the pig off the stand it felt worlds lighter than a 450. Rotating mass has an incredible impact on the feeling of weight.

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Don't discount the advantage of having less rotating mass. This is not apparent in the specs but very noticeable when you are riding the bike.

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? A bit ironic that if you are in the wild or at a track, you will most likely have to re-charge this thing with a gas generator.

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It seems that way on the surface, but the Alta is less about "green" and more about better power and durability. The MXR was designed with performance in mind, the electric power plant was chosen based on power delivery. Better for the environment is just a happy coincidence.

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....and shipping to the U.K. Is now available!.

..........is really what I wanted to see. One day.

Thanks for the info ML.

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Specifications
Product 2018 Alta Motors RedShift MXR
Model Year 2018
Engine Size Other
Engine Type Electric
Engine Displacement High Speed PMAC - Waterproof Li-Ion 350v
Bore x Stroke 5.8kWh
Compression Ratio
Fuel System
Ignition
Transmission 1 Speed
Final Drive 3.5 : 1 - 12F / 53R
Suspension Front WP AER Fully Adjustable
Suspension Rear WP 2018 Alta Spec
Brakes Front Brembo Two Piston 260mm Rotor
Brakes Rear Brembo Single Piston 240mm Rotor
Tires Front Dunlop Geomax MX3S
Tires Rear Dunlop Geomax MX3S
Overall Length
Overall Width
Overall Height
Seat Height 37.5"
Wheelbase 58.56"
Ground Clearance
Rake/Trail 27°
Fuel Capacity 5.8kWh
Curb Weight 259 lbs
Features 1.5 hrs(240v) Recharge time
Miscellaneous
Price $11,995
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​AltaMotor.co/RedShiftMXR

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