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also, with on going on what we are hears about the issue, and not having 100% certainty about the equipment on seelys bikes. Has anyone else encountered this in muddy conditions? I know it is hard to keep mud from really caking up on the bikes, and wd-40/silicon sprays only go so far.
The Shop
Are you positive that you're always being told EXACTLY what happens?
That's the point.
If this exact same set up is on the production bikes, I imagine there may be a good chance of a recall coming. Still, there have to be other 2018 Honda's out there and every one of them were running different suspension than Seely?
It's the same style retaining system that KYB uses on nearly all their moto-shocks. It comes down to a unique set of circumstances surrounding that bike, linkage, clevis height, etc. They'll change it to suit this bike.
There were plenty of other Hondas on track that didn't face the same problem due to the retaining system on the Showa shock and there were a ton of teams on KYB shocks using that retaining system and they didn't have problems due to the layout, where the mud could build up, etc.
World of difference , i spent over $100,000 budget on kit to check dampers, thats just dimensional stuff, for all the parts , bodies , shafts, internals, shim, and multi piston damping system parts.
You probably have a difficult time believing a lot of stuff .
Hey , im sorry i was at the race and close enough to people that know..
Pit Row
Without seeing a diagram of the parts , im summising that its similar to other stuff, but there arent many ways to do it.
EDIT..
Just seen some pics of the Factory KYB, and yes , its the split collar , it looks really deep though , you could pack some mud in there for sure.
You were first stating your claim that the retaining clip failed. ML then pointed out they do not even use a retaining ring system on KYB shocks. Seeing that I have WORKED on KYB shocks in the past, I understand how their collar system opertates. Why would I have to manufacture a shock to understand a simple mechanical design?
Watch this and enlighten me as to what failed, oh great internet douche nozzle.
https://youtu.be/wLZLcElWb7E
The mud was very heavy, and there were stones in it. The mud got packed around the bottom of the shock/link and a stone got forced into the split/opening in the spring collar, forcing it to either break or bend, (I didn't clarify that). The collar came out so the spring just slid down to the linkage. Hence the partial collapse.
Freak incident, which unfortunately happened twice.
Seeley used his own suspension (Kayaba). Different to the stuff the GP guys run.
That's my understanding.
Glad you put it to bed.
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