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idiotic isaac idiotic isaac
7/18/2020 10:23 PM

Hey motards, I’m returning to the reddit of Moto to ask a question about 125s. So I’m wondering wether it’s better to get a Yz125 and put money into engine work or to get a Ktm or Husky 125 and put money into suspension work. I need to race school boy 1 and 125 B/C so I can’t put a big bore in the Yz btw.

Thanks

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Rickyisms Rickyisms
7/18/2020 10:33 PM

KTM with good suspension and simple mods will be easier to ride faster.

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Donkey Kong Donkey Kong
7/18/2020 11:13 PM

They're both good so the real answer is it doesn't really matter but I'd get the KTM personally.

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chump6784 chump6784
7/19/2020 12:05 AM

There is a poster here who had a shop do the motor on his sons KTM 125 but his son couldn't get used to it. He then bought a yz 125 and had the same shop do the engine work and they achieved the same power output as the KTM.
There are plenty of people who have spent good money on the KTM suspension only to be unhappy with it or go all in on a spring conversion. There are also people who like the stock KTM suspension.
Either way you'd have a bad ass bike but IMO, I'd go the yz with engine work

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cody41 cody41
7/19/2020 5:45 AM

I’d go yz with engine work. The chassis and suspension makes it easier to ride fast.

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yz133rider yz133rider
7/19/2020 5:47 AM

I’d vote ktm with spring forks and jetted well and run t2. A stock ktm on t2 is going to make similar power to a yz with $$$$ put into it.

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navalseabee navalseabee
7/19/2020 5:53 AM

I’m in the camp of having spent tons of money on KTM suspension only to end up unhappy. Tried it all, valving spring conversions etc. based on how good the KYB stuff is I‘d go that route personally.

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yz133rider yz133rider
7/19/2020 6:01 AM
navalseabee wrote:

I’m in the camp of having ...more

Bingo , kyb, ohlins or cone valves whichever you get best deal on don’t think u can go wrong.

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bh bh
7/19/2020 6:37 AM

Really depends on how much you weigh. If your a lightweight the power won’t be as important as the handling but if your on the heavier side I would worry more about the power.

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MZ193 MZ193
7/19/2020 6:59 AM

I'd go with the orange one.

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mx98wfo mx98wfo
7/19/2020 7:07 AM

Keefer Testing just talked about this on one of his last podcasts. His son is riding 125’s and they tested both but decided that the Yamaha is the better bike as the chassis and suspension are better and it’s easier to go fast on a good chassis with less motor.

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BobPA BobPA
7/19/2020 8:41 AM
mx98wfo wrote:

Keefer Testing just talked ...more

Keefer also worked for Yamaha for a large number of years.

I have ridden both, the KTM engine is much better out of the box. It is also better after you throw money at it.

You guys must be awfully fussy to hate your suspension that much. My '17 450 is bone stock and handles excellent. 80% of my friends are still on stock suspenders as well...some of them can get around a track pretty well too.

Chassis is a matter of opinion. I hate the two stroke YZ's. They feel like I am riding something from the early 2000's. The modern KTM chassis does everything better IMO.

But, it is all rider preference...see what YOU like, not a bunch of bros on the internet. But, if it were my money, why would you spend top dollar on a bike that saw its last revision 14 or so years ago.

Tomac and/or Anderson for 2020.....

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TeamGreen TeamGreen
7/19/2020 9:25 AM

Well, the stock KTM/Husky seems to whoop-ass on a mod'd Yamaha. So, there's the answer when it comes to racing.

The AER's with the new internals like the 2020 Rockstar/Red Bull editions have (and the stock 2021s will have...or so I'm led to believe) those new forks work really, really nicley. The stock shock seems awfully damn good, to me.

Also, the stock KTM/Husky motor runs STUPID FAST on T2 mixed at 50:1.

I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

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MotoChris MotoChris
7/19/2020 9:43 AM
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HondaFan33 HondaFan33
7/19/2020 10:30 AM
TeamGreen wrote:

Well, the stock KTM/Husky ...more

Isn’t T2 mixed at 40:1 already? Curious what you mix it with to make its 50:1 and why? I assumed the point of a premixed has was to avoid the hassle of mixing. I’m looking at getting a 150 so curious about the hot setups, thanks.

I'll keep my guns, freedom and money, and you can keep the "change"

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H4L H4L
7/19/2020 10:33 AM

My vote would go to the YZ.. It's a solid platform with very good suspension from the showroom floor.

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seth505 seth505
7/19/2020 10:43 AM

How are people saying the yz chassis is better? Have you ridden both bikes and still feel that’s true?

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OneWordResponseGuy OneWordResponseGuy
7/19/2020 10:54 AM

Sorry, but the YZ chassis is not nearly as good as the KTM. It might be better suspended but it's completely outclassed in motor, brakes, chassis, ergos and potential to make even better.

Not much to say to Vitards.

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kkawboy14 kkawboy14
7/19/2020 10:56 AM
OneWordResponseGuy wrote:

Sorry, but the YZ chassis ...more

Seems like Ty and Levi would disagree with your statement

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OneWordResponseGuy OneWordResponseGuy
7/19/2020 11:06 AM
kkawboy14 wrote:

Seems like Ty and Levi ...more

Ty Masterpool was head and shoulders above his competition that year. Not surprising. Here are the results from last year.

Looks like the consumers disagree with your statement.

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Not much to say to Vitards.

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yz133rider yz133rider
7/19/2020 11:14 AM
OneWordResponseGuy wrote:

Sorry, but the YZ chassis ...more

kkawboy14 wrote:

Seems like Ty and Levi ...more

OneWordResponseGuy wrote:

Ty Masterpool was head and ...more

Dang. 7 out of the top 10 were husky/ktm and that year 9/10. Pretty well settles that.

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Deffonotbarrett57 Deffonotbarrett57
7/19/2020 11:16 AM

KTM with suspension work.

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Kyle978 Kyle978
7/19/2020 11:21 AM

Buy a KTM, send the suspension to Enzo, put a pipe and silencer on it, get it jetted correctly and go rip!

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Motofinne Motofinne
7/19/2020 11:26 AM
mx98wfo wrote:

Keefer Testing just talked ...more

I really, really like the Keefers. But that is such a weird move. Either someone is getting paid or his kid is an absolute exception (little, little minority) that somehow has a style that suits the YZ better.

I have had the chance to ride both 2020 bikes at the same track on the same day. I can't understand how a rider would pick the YZ if they have the option to get a SX (or TC). And this is coming from me, a guy that has bought 3 brand new 4-stroke Yamahas the last 3 years.

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idiotic isaac idiotic isaac
7/19/2020 11:41 AM
mx98wfo wrote:

Keefer Testing just talked ...more

Motofinne wrote:

I really, really like the ...more

Which did you notice any glaring issues about the suspension/handling going from one to the other?

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endurox endurox
7/19/2020 11:48 AM

Put the WP spring kit in the KTM, VHM head with SX or MX insert and go ride.

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TeamGreen TeamGreen
7/19/2020 11:54 AM
TeamGreen wrote:

Well, the stock KTM/Husky ...more

HondaFan33 wrote:

Isn’t T2 mixed at 40:1 ...more

You add VPR to get it down to 50:1. I add 1,125 gallons of VPR to the 5 gallons of T2. I've had really good luck with this ratio on that engine...with this fuel. Bikes run amazing, engines last forever and the plugs look perfect.

I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

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CarlinoJoeVideo CarlinoJoeVideo
7/19/2020 11:54 AM
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2F4A 2F4A
7/19/2020 12:10 PM

Just look at the stacked EMX 125 result sheets of the last 5 years and you know what the best platform is. Husky or KTM.

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GeorgiePorgie GeorgiePorgie
7/19/2020 12:14 PM

I wish my yz144 would stop like my ktm..., it’s a toss up theyre both great bikes.

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